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Thursday, February 19, 2009
B.J. Penn's GSP Greasegate Video
This is a video that B.J. Penn's camp posted on BJPenn.com in regards to alleged misuse of Vaseline by Georges St. Pierre's camp at UFC 94. Judge for yourself.
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BJ still got beat. Reguardless of how they put that video together. Stop crying and get back to real training.
At the end of the video, it says that the outcome of the fight is said and done, as long as he doesn't do it again. my thoughts - if that was the outcome of the fight and its all said and done, stop complaining about it like a bitch and accept that you got your ass kicked. If GSP wore armor into that fight, it wouldn't have mattered with how dominant he was against BJ. This is just a case of someone having talked a big game and then not delivering like he said he would. Sore loser to say the least. Don't tarnish the sport, don't be a Pete Rose or Michael Vick, swallow your pride and accept that you were defeated. Fair and Sqaure.
One more thing. millions of people were watching, they're not stupid.
shouldn't bj be worrying about his next fight instead of crying that he was cheated. Take a fucking zoloft or something. Let me just say this, bj's got a hell of a fight coming up and needs to do some serious cardio training, and some serious training for what's ahead of him. His conditioning is seriously a joke. That in combination with GSP's phenomenal conditioning and strength is what made him lose his fight. I hope Kenny Florian kicks the crap out of BJ. -BJ after that fight, you should go to your bedroom by take your shoes off, lie down in your bed, take about 20 or 30 minutes, and go fuck yourself. P.S. don't forget the vaseline.
I will be the first to addmit that BJ at 170 is not a good weight. GSP kicked his ass no questions asked. But lets examine what BJ has done at 155. He has only lost one fight and that was to Jens Pulver which was a fluk and we all saw how BJ toyed with him in the rematch. At 155 BJ's cardio is good but not at the level of other guys. Ken Flo is a solid fighter and i am looking forward to the fight. But Ken Flo has never beaten a top 10 light weight so let not say he is going to destroy the #1 light weight in BJ Penn. BJ is the best fighter in the world not questions asked. But lets not confusses your dislike for Penn with the fact he is amazing at 155.
Real warriors don't bitch and whine about something as silly as this...BJ lost at every aspect of the fight and GSP dominated. Also GSP team wiped his body down after the first round on because of the complaint....
BJ you disgust me ! shame on you!Do yourself a favor and stay at 155 with the "little" guys. He looked fat ,slow and out of shape on the most important fight of his life! GSP is still improving while BJ doesn't bring anything new to the table.Kenny Florian will hand it to him if BJ does not take the fight seriously.
BJ you disgust me ! shame on you!Do yourself a favor and stay at 155 with the "little" guys. He looked fat ,slow and out of shape on the most important fight of his life! GSP is still improving while BJ doesn't bring anything new to the table.Kenny Florian will hand it to him if BJ does not take the fight seriously.
BJ you disgust me ! shame on you!Do yourself a favor and stay at 155 with the "little" guys. He looked fat ,slow and out of shape on the most important fight of his life! GSP is still improving while BJ doesn't bring anything new to the table.Kenny Florian will hand it to him if BJ does not take the fight seriously.
You idiots that comment and call BJ a bitch etc. need to settle down. First it's obvious that you do not grapple or else you would know that even the slightest amount of body slick can completely change the outcome, especially around the shoulders, upper arms and upper back. Those areas are essential for guard control and submissions. It was very apparent during the course of the fight that BJ had a difficult time maintaining any sort of high guard/ rubber guard. Without the ability to control from the bottom, setting up for submissions, sweeps etc becomes virtually impossible and you become subject to the assault from the top. Now you can say that GSP is the better conditioned athlete. I agree. His conditioning is second-to-none and he's one of the best in the world. But that doesn't change the reality that the application of Vaseline to a fighter's back, shoulders and upper arms could and would have had a major effect on the outcome of the fight. And ps to those of you that call BJ's conditioning a joke; You're retarded. He is an incredible athlete and went 4 rounds with arguably the best pound for pound fighter in the world. Shut the fuck up. If you're such a badass, why the hell aren't you out there?
gsp was the best that night but it makes you think. i remember george talkiing his gameplan wasn't to take him down in the first round but to lean on his arms. now i wonder if he didn't want to be on the ground without some vasoline on his neck, head and back. plus with so many people seeing it happen, makes me wonder if they were looking for it. like some lockeroon rumors... or maybe just pj didnt have the cardio for the 2nd straight time...
Yeah BJ quit big fucken deal taken an even bigger beating is not worth hurting your future. Have you ever seen what a washed up fighter who took one to many punches to the head its fucken sad. Yeah BJ talked shit and could not back it up. But lets see you get in the ring with BJ and you will walk out looking like he did aganist GSP. All you guys who think Ken Flo is going to beat BJ name me one top 10 light weight Ken Flo has beaten. Like him or not BJ is still the #1 lightweight in the world.
BJ had a lazy rubber guard that night. Anytime he went for mission control he never tried to put GSP's hand on the mat, and he never tried to go for any sweep opportunities.
And if GSP is that greasy, why would BJ try to stay on his back? Wouldn't you try to scramble or get into the butt scoot position and cage walk to your feet if someone is greased up?
You can make all the excuses in the world for BJ, but BJ lost hands down. He better focus on Florian, because if his cardio is the same, I see Kenny taking him out in the later rounds.
GSP is still too much for a smaller and YES outta shape BJ, he laid down for 3 rounds and you call that conditioning? BTW Estrela , stop calling people retards and idiots, some of us are grapplers or practice other martial arts,and WE KNOW how to tell cheating from total domination.There was no vasoline involved when he was getting out-strikked as well.GSP was better ,and it is really funny to see all the fighters that got owned by him (taken down like puppets)say he seemed greasy.Get over it, GSP will loose one day again) and maybe get owned by somebody else ,but doubt he will ever make excuses like this.
At that level, any advantage is a huge advantage. I know GSP was dominant, but mma fans know the power of jujitsu to turn a fight around instantaneously. That power is taken away when you use grease.
To those asking why so many are coming out of the woodwork now and accusing GSP: GSP was never caught by the commission before. Now he got caught and that lent credence to all of the fighter's opinions. It allowed them to confess since they were now backed up by real evidence.
They're needs to be a rematch for GSP and Penn's reputation's sake.
B.J. is correct about the effects of vaseline but he is acting like that would have changed the outcome of the fight in which he clearly was outclassed. Then he uses a quote from Matt "the 2-3 when fighting GSP" Hughes. Seriously, B.J. I like how you cropped the video and how you tried to make it look but move on, it is making you look bad.
GSP cheated win or lose he and his corner know better than to pull that garbage at this level. George "vaselino" st pierre has earned his nickname. GSP got caught on tape and by NSAC officials..LOL 3 MMA champions said GSP was greased up by "greasy" phil nurse, Greg "greaser" jackson and Georges "rush to vaseline" st pierre sat back and let his body get greased up "like they always do" as stated by George" rush to vaseline" st pierre.
They keep showing the Vaseline jar in the cornerman's hands as if thats proof. Hes allowed to have it. The video is deliberately misleading. and what is all this "nice and shiny after the commission wipes him off'" business? the commission wiped him. While I dont grapple, in my experience with vaseline *cough* its not all that difficult to wipe off
people saying that it was wiped off between rounds need to get real,they took one swipe with a towel.go wipe a small amount of vaseline on your arm take one swipe with a towel and see for yourself if that removes it even slightly.it may remove the amount that is visible but see if it is not still slick as snot
These are fans who are obviously not educated in the sport... and not fighters... these are probably the same people who said Santonio Holmes had both feet down or that it wasn't a forward pass by Kurt Warner... haha! I'm not a fighter, but I'm well educated in the sport of mma and understand what I'm watching. But even at that, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that lube, when applied on anything, is slippery. I'm actually a fan of both fighters, but one camp obviously took the term "whatever it takes to win" a little too literally. The video, though obviously biased, does bring up a valid point. And I'm sure if the shoe was on the other foot, all the GSP fans would be crying and complaining too. Did BJ bite off more than he could chew in this fight with GSP? Maybe... but I'd like to see any of you haters and doubters have enough balls to fight a naturally bigger person. BJ always willing to fight the bigger person in itself is commendable. I've gone for GSP in all of his previous fights with the exception of his fights with BJ. But I think he has his work cut out for him against Thiago Alves, and if he had the balls to move up in weight to face Anderson Silva? I'd really like to read his fan's comments after Silva hands him a massive beating. BJ, let's clean out the lightweight division, and when the time is right get that rematch... Let GSP grease up again... as long as you could wear sandpaper on your knees and ankles! Let's keep it clean!
Its hard to argue with that video, at the very least, there should be some efforts by the commission moving forward that examine a fighters skin condition before a fight more than 10 seconds in the "harley davidson prep point." BJ has a legit complaint, and there does seem to be a trend with GSP and slipperiness (if thats a word?). Cheating is found in any and every sport, and should not be ignored. Regardless of what fighter you support or believe, video and others' previous experience with GSP leads me to believe that he broke the rules...and there should be consequences. That said, I dont know if I want to see Penn-GSP 3, BJ got F'd in his A.
It's too bad BJ has decided to try and smear (pun intended) GSP's name over this. Guys get sweaty and slippery after the 1st round anyway. It is bad for the sport to take it this far. Just correct the corner issues so that little whiners like BJ have no excuses. Certain people can just have oily sweaty skin - maybe BJ can ask for an alcohol bath between rounds to make people as easy to hold on to as possible.
This is truly pathetic. B.J. Penn got worked in every aspect of the game. Even a hardcore B.J. Penn fan who thinks GSP is shit has to admit that BJ simply didn't show up that night. Wah wah wah, his back was slippery??? What the fuck. Watch the video, first of all he is slipping off GSPs shoulders for the most part, not his back. Second of all, its called sweat. Third of all, even if there was a small amount of vaseline, do you think it stays there when it is rubbed? No it doesn't. That is why they reapply it to the fighters faces every round.
If BJ Penn's camp had any common sense they would drop this shit. What a shame for GSP's stellar performance to be tainted by all this bullshit. Honestly though, anyone who thinks that GSP was cheating, or even that it happened accidentally and somehow changed the fight, needs to wake up.
BJ Penn is a joke.
I love all these other morons coming out of the woodwork now to say that GSP "felt slippery." Do you think there is a reason they didn't mention that before?? God damn this is ridiculous.
BJ is a disgrace and embarrasment to the whole MMA community and his fans.He's a spoiled fat cry ass whiner who keeps making himself look like a dumbass.Get over Pudgy!!Kenny's gonna give you a beating with a fury of elbows thats gonna split that melon head of yours into retirement.
Quote Dave Chappelle "... everything looks better in slow motion". Does people forget that GSP is constantly moving and at a fast speed. When it's all said and done, BJ didn't show up..
I've watched most of the mma events over the last several years...I saw the first fight between BJ nad GSP...He didn't get a submission hold in that fight either? Why would it be different in this fight? Also you hear Joe Rogan state sometime during "every" fight that after the first round fighters are so slippery with sweat that you can't keep a hold?
This is so silly..BJ lost...plain and simple...Own up admit it and move on...As for the other fighters Matt Hughes et al..He never had any respect for GSP..Has always talked smack and it must kill him that Gsp dominated him the last two fights!! It's about what I would expect there?,...
hey B. Estrella- you said everyone should shut up about bj's conditioning, and that he went 4 rounds with perhaps the best pound for pound fighter in the world. one thing wrong with that statement. its a 5 round fight. i've never heard of a 4 round title fight. he was tired after round one, and just hung around for a couple more. i wish gsp would have knocked him out, but the bottom line is, bj's corner gave up after round 4. ROUND 4, not ROUND 5, the number of rounds in a title fight. i think its quite fair for people to talk about his conditioning. biggest fight of his career, and he didnt show up. he went into the ring cocky and arrogant and gsp shut him up. bj is alot better at 155. but i do hope he loses to KEN FLO
As much as I like BJ & GSP, I can't see the outcome being any different in this fight! GSP was fighting in his weight class, BJ wasn't! BJ, you need to concentrate on smashing up the light weights, you will lose fans if you carry on with the "greasegate" accusations. GSP is a special talent in his weight class, as are you in the light weight division. Forget about the defeat and move on. Maybe you have proved that greasing does go on, but you know for sure that every fighter will be getting a wipe down before the next round in future. BJ & GSP are both future Hall of Famers without a doubt. Let's all move on!
BJ. Let it go dude. You got beat by GSP...again. Why should you ever get a third shot at him? You only make trilogy's when both guys have a win against each other. You blew it. Maybe next time you should actually put in the work instead of taking your mid-training vacations eating your pineapple pizzas you lazy prick. You are just not as good as you think you are. You are the best LW in the world IMO so just be happy with that and stay down there instead of trying to be this so-called legend you think you can be by holding 2 belts at once. You aren't even the best fighter of your generation much less of all time you douchebag.
BJ Penn is a quitter. if the grease mattered so much how come he couldnt do shit in rounds 3 and 4 and quit...the warrior spirit doesnt quit. obviously he reads the French version of warrior spirit. GSP kicked his ass and i would like to see gsp v penn. it would be like Shamrock vs ortiz. penn will never beat gsp unless gsp has his hands tied behind his back
The way I see it which no one has mentioned is that there is all this controversy to build up another fight between the 2. If bj had won there would definitely have been a third fight since they would have been 1-1 NOW, since there is controversy it might happen anyway. There has been more than 1 fight in the UFC that has made me question certain things. I just hope the corruption in boxing doesnt make its way into the UFC. That would truly be a shame. But at the end of the day sadly, its always about the money.
I'm really glad to see that nobody is buying into this BS from BJ. Nate M. said it best on sound off "the commission caught it, didn't disqualify him, checked it in between rounds, and the fight continued". Time to give it a rest BJ, you are beatable and not only that, you got your ass kicked. BJ Penn is the whiniest fighter in MMA.
I lost respect for GSP from this video. I know BJ would have a tough time with GSP's size but negating BJ's ground abilities by illegally applying a Slicking Agent is cheating. The commission should do something about GSP and rule to bout a no contest and then Dana should have the two guys fight again.
the fighter just sits there listening to his coach and his trainers while other guys do there stuff,the fighter is focused on his trainer and on not what others are doing.
Yes, GSP looks nice and shiny in the 3rd and 4th, but i'd love to see one fight where at least one of the fighters isn't shiny in the 3rd or 4th round. YES, GSP slips through BJ's guard more than once, but he WAS sweaty, and fighters train extensively to get out of those situations. GSP just flat out beat BJ, I have a lot of respect for BJ as a fighter, he's a very talented guy, but he got outclassed in this fight. The parts of this fight you DON'T see are when GSP is out striking BJ on the feet, when he's taking BJ down at will, when BJ is looking exhausted after the 1st round because he's NOT IN SHAPE. Vasoline, no vasoline, BJ was outmatched, and unless his gameplan was to lay on his back and try to submit St. Pierre in the 1st round before he got sweaty, he's got no excuse for his performance. in EVERY aspect of the fight he was overwhelmed, he lost, and he deserved to lose. Just suck it up BJ, kick some ass at lightweight, cement your legacy that way, and stop tainting it with all the bullshit.
I think alot of people seem to miss the point here:
No matter how dominant GSP was he might have been illegaly greased up.
In any sports people sholdn't cheat to win and should be punished if they do.
I'm not well versed in the UFC rules to make a comment about exactly what happened and what is allowed, I just say that if somebody cheats they should suffer the consequenses, no matter if they were domination or not.
Sidenote: For the record GSP is my favourite fighter all-time and I hope he continues to be as dominant as he currently is.
ok lets be straight forward, the reason why people dont care as much as they(i guess)shouold is because this guy had a f*cken big mouth, lazy, spoiled ass, cry baby, and it pissed me off how he bad mouthed gsp. this dude was relaxing in the beach with the hot sun on his body checking out chicks and shit while gsp was in litterally 2 degree whether training his ass off. now i dont know about the rest of you guys but after the 1st round bj was finshed, he was so tired and so out of breath, completely drained, so vaseline in my opinion really didnt make that much of a differance to me, the kid would still have gotten his ass beat in the long run, but i hope gsp learned his lesson and doesnt do that shit again cus its now all eyes on him(not in a good way)
to all you calling out bj, show fucking some respect to one of the best fighters in the world. whether gsp meant to do it it is still illegal. if you know anything about fighting vaseline is a bjj fighters worst nightmare. if you watch the fight again bj tries defending by bringing his gaurd up high but his legs slide right down. that is why it is illegal. i believe the fight should happen again because as everyone knows it is illegal. all you pussies need get a lives and stop trying to talk shit over the internet.
Yep, I agree. That rematch should be set ASAP. It's a crying shame that it wasn't set for today's UFC 95. I'd LOVE to see BJ get smashed and forced to quit like Georges' little bitch again. Hey BJ, (I KNOW you're reading this forum - as vain as you are), let this be a lesson regarding talking smack to your opponent. Guess what? Next time the beating will be worse. You WERE one of the world's best. Releasing that video instead of holding a proper press conference just lowered your once hall-of-fame status to desperate BUM.
I can't wait till BJ steps in the ring again and all the fans boo and throw pacifiers and diapers in the ring at him.Dam,I'll pay anything to see that.He's made himself look like such an idiot for pressing this issue with the vaseline...lol...What a disgrace to the sport BJ...Just do us all a favor and QUIT again ya loser!
Has anyone seen a fight where bj was in a guard position? He ties the opponent up and goes for the submission. That's his thing. How anyone can say that gsp being greased-up didn't make a difference, you are just kidding yourselves. I do have to agree, though...GSP needs to move up to middleweight and fight Anderson Silva. He really has dominated the 170lb class...greased-up, or not.
LOL LMFAO HAHAHA!!! I cannot believe the idiots on this site & all the other sites crying over the fact that BJ got owned & that the lil, almost invisible amount of vaseline had anything to do with BJ's embaressing loss.
1. If there was any vaseline on his back there R 2 commission workers in the octogone b4 GSP enters or at the same time, anyway if there was a large amount of vaseline that all u BJ fans claim there was, the 2 commission workers would have wiped it off or did whatever they felt necessary to make sure there was no "advantage" to any fighter.
2. Some dumb ass wrote in his blog that they only wiped GSP's back once & that was it... well sorry stupid the video only shows them wipping GSP down once, while they actually did it a few times & they almost "rubbed" off GSP's skin, thats how hard they wiped the "invisible" vaseline off GSPs back, pathetic losers.
3. When u C this video which is clearly made 2 make it look like GSP was trying to cheat, which again is pathetic 4 whomever created this video, not hard to tell ur a BJ Penn nut huggen faggot, Y didnt u show all of the video & the facts? nice propaganda job u idiot. Pretty sad in todays society that even MMA site(s) R "bias" towards their own fav fighter. (the above video is proof, since the idiot who created that vid only show half the "truth")
4. If u C the video of Nurse putting a lil bit of vaseline on his fingers, look @ the fight again & look @ Nurses hand, he has a dab of vaseline (just like they do in boxing! vaseline on the back of the hand) on the back part of his hand, so he can dab his fingers in it & rub the SMALL AMOUNT of vaseline on GSPs face. LOOK @ the almost impossible to C vaseline Nurse puts on his fingers & rubs on GSPs face/cheeks/chin/nose/eyebrows/forehead & then rubs GSPs temples with the same amount of vaseline he put on his fingers 2 rub on GSPs face. (the 1st & only time u C Nurse dab his fingers into the very small amount of vaseline from the back part of his hand is when Nurse dabs his fingers into the vaseline @ the beginning of the "break" in between rounds, as shown above in the video) After Nurse rubs the vaseline on GSPs face/cheeks/chin/nose/eyebrows/forehead & then rubs GSPs temples he then goes to rubbing GSPs shoulders for a few seconds & then GSPs back (top) & then taps GSPs chest to end the "ritual" that even Couture & afew other MMA fighters use during their 1 min breaks.
5. After u read what I wrote above, go & watch the fight, not half of the propaganda made video above, watch the full movie with the clips of what I wrote about above, U will C the truth. Look @ the amount of vaseline Nurse put on his fingers & look @ the time he rubbed GSPs face B4 he started to rub GSPs shoulders & back, then comeback here & tell me if u think the lil amount of vaseline that "MIGHT" of been left on Nurses fingers was enough to rub on BJs lips, let alone to make BJS legs 2 slide down GSPs back like they did... b/c of the sweat. AGAIN!!! look @ the amount of vaseline that could of been left (which is a joke 2 even think that the lil tiny amount of vaseline was enough to make BJS legs slide down due to amouont of vaseline that might of been still on Nurses fingers after rubbing 98% of the vaseline on GSPs face.)
Also, dont forget... not only was there not enough vaseline 2 put on BJs lips, but how in the hell did GSP have so much vaseline on his back (according to BJ & company/fans) that the commission people & even ref never noticed it while they R standing right there inches away from GSP & crew? How did the lil amount of vaseline if there was any left, still B on GSPs back after the commission wiped GSPs back very hard after each round with towels?!? BUSTED!
6. If there was sooo much vaseline on GSPs back like BJ & Fans/F@Gs clim there was, then where in the fuck did it go? How can u say GSP was covered in so much vaseline that all that vaseline was the reason BJs legs kept sliding down?!? Y didnt BJ or his corner or the ref notice all the vaseline? How did BJ not notice all that vaseline on his arms, hands & legs after BJ had his hands & arms on GSPs shoulders in the 1st round while GSP was going 4a takedown? BJ had his filthy paws all over GSPs back & shoulders, yet BJ wasnt covered in vaseline & most importantly didnt notice it...hummm weird isnt it?!? After the 1st round BJ was on his back for about 12-13 mins out of 15mins, so BJ is telling us that his legs were sliding down all b/c of vaseline & not sweat... again Y didnt BJ have his legs & feet all covered in vaseline? b/c his legs & feet would of been covered & all have this "thick substance" that vaseline is when its rubbed onto ur skin, but I guess the "special/magical" vaseline got rubbed off/vanished after each round, so BJ couldnt notice or show this "magical grease" being on him from GSP! WEIRD AGAIN, WEIRD
7. How does BJ not know or feel the vaseline on his hands, arms, fingers, legs, feet, and/or on any part of his body? If there was any vaseline, especially the huge amount u BJ losers/cry babies say there was, then Y didnt BJ notice the vaseline & complain during the fight? y didnt his corner say anything? how did the ref not see it? Weird how BJ & his clan only brought up the vaseline situation after BJ got owned & made a fool by GSP (for many many reasons, that was brought on by BJ & his big mouth). BJ took the opportunity 4 a perfect (in his eyes & his stupid fans eyes) Xcuse which was the reason Y he lost the fight... vaseline!!! Thats even pathetic 4 BJ. AGAIN if the commission thought there was an unfair advantage @ any time they would have steped in & did the appropriate steps 2 correct the "error". They thought there was a lil vaseline on GSPs back & they rubbed it off after each round, case closed.
8. If there is 1 fighter who would kick, scream & cry if he thought he was "cheated" in a fight it would B BJ. If BJ really thought there was vaseline involved, he would of noticed it in the fight, BJ would of been covered with vaseline, his corner would of seen it and/or felt it in between rounds. BJ would have created a fucking "war" over this "scheme" if BJ really thought GSP cheated, but BJ like most of us real MMA fans & fighters know the difference. There was no xtra vaseline on GSP, & if there was the commission wiped it all off.
9. BJ doesnt notice any vaseline on him, yet he cries about GSP being "greasy" after the 1 way ass kicking, BJ doesnt cry or make a plea about GSP cheating, until hours later, but not while the "cheating" was going on & could/would of busted GSP 4 cheating, b/c thats all the commission had to do was the touch GSP's body & they would of found nothing..... I mean the large amount of vaseline that apparently dissapears b4 the fighter gets to his stool. Lime a few of u idiots who think ur helping BJ with ur comments, only prove GSP did not cheat, not even close. HOW?!? U BJ fan idiots R wondering is simple... 1 of u said if u tried to wipe vaseline off u with a towel, once (which is what u assumed they only did it once, when they actually did it a few times & very hard) the vaseline would still be there on ur body, b/c of how vaseline is... then according 2 U (which I agree with 110% about the vaseline still being on ur body if it wasnt properly wiped off) how did BJ not get any on his body? since its xtremely hard to really get off ur skin, then how did all that vaseline "on GSPs body" dissapear or how did BJ not notice any of it being on his body?!? AGAIN!! b/c there wasnt any there, so y dont u losers look 4 another Xcuse, b/c this one is shit, terrible, pathetic & even worst, its embaressing for many people (BJs fans, family & trainers) but most important, the person who should feel very very stupid & embaressed is urs truly... BJ "I am the only person not 2 blame 4 my losses" Penn. I'm sure BJs still having trouble swallowing those razor blades. LOL hahahah idiots!!! *** BTW, Y didnt BJ make an ass out of him-self if he really thought GSP cheated by complaining or getting 100 TV news outlets to fly out to Hawaii & call out GSP 4 being a cheater etc etc etc?!? Also BJ's 1st interview was over 2 weeks after the fight, pretty quiet 4 a guy who got raped & owned in front of millions, especially by a guy who "cheated" according to BJ. BJ staying quiet & not saying anything is proof enough BJ knows he lost to a better fighter who never cheated.
WE all KNOW BJ would have did or said something & would still be saying shit if he thought 4 one second GSP actually cheated.
As 4 those fighters who got owned by GSP in the past... especially Matt Hughes, quite ironic & funny that Hughes claims GSP on "felt greasy" in the 2 fights GSP won & not the 1st fight Hughes won, lmfao convinient dont u think?!? & 2 not say anything until now?!? lol nice try Hughes u pussy ass F@G, another cry baby. Hughes would pick GSP out of a lineup 4 murder, even if the suspects description was a Chinese or Japanise women, thats how pathetic & mad Hughes is @ GSP. WE all knew the day after the GSP VS Fitch fight Hughes was/is such a sore loser. After the 3rd round of the GSP & Fitch fight, Hughes said he left after the 3rd round b/c he said the fight sucked and that GSP looked terrible in that fight, Hughes even said GSP shouldnt even B considered 4 the P4P fighter in the world, after the Fitch fight. I was like WTF! R U serious?!? but Hughes was dead serious, all b/c GSP said Fitch was the best test/fighter GSP had ever fought, so Hughes got insulted & cried.
Though there R a few fighters who say GSP felt greasy while they fought him, but never said 1 word back then, only now after the invisible vaseline conspiracy joke. Talk about sore losers & extremely pathetic, I think Serra said GSP was "greasy" in their 2nd fight... weird/ironic that they only complain about when GSP beat them but not when they beat GSP. "Ohhh ya when I won VS GSP it wasnt greasy at all, only when I lost did he feel greasy" lol lmfao hahaha talk about grasping 4 paper think straws, my god I feel bad for the 2 Matts, their almost as bad as BJ. The 3 of them should B sponsored by kleenex, god knows they cry alot/enough to promote the tissue, lol idiots.
Fitch, Koscheck, Trig never had any problems with GSP being greasy, lol wonder y it is the only people who complain R those who got owned & made a fool of by GSP. Hughes alone could b GSPs highlight reel all on his own, & Serra didnt even hit GSP once with a punch in their 2nd fight, so I assume thats an embaressing ass beating, especially with the trash talk Serra was saying as well. LOL
4 those who say BJ does use his high guard/rubber guard is true, but has he tried that on people the size of GSP as well as the strength GSP has?!? Strength alone can prevent u form being sub.... let alone a guy whos not only stronger than anyone is his weight class, but to fight VS a guy whos a LW, come on idiots use ur brains, BJs not that good (in regards to his skill being strong enough to prevent GSPs strength from stoping BJs attempts of a sub) Get the fuck out of here, look @ the fight & listen to GSPs comments about what he did 2 prevent BJ from using his high guard... GSP trained 4 that which is Y BJ couldnt do anything about it, but GSPs strength alone would of prevented BJ from getting anything close to a sub on GSP. GSP postering/standing up makes BJs legs slide down, its called physics 4 u morons like BJ, & also GSP said & u C it in the fight... GSP said every time BJ tried 4 a high guard or a sub, GSP would keep his head above BJs head, which immediately prevents BJ from doing anything sub wise. AS I said read my long ass "book" & this then go watch the fight & u will see GSP had such an incredible game plan BJ was done b4 he even stepped into the octogone. Think with ur heads & common sence, and not with ur hearts. I know it sucks when ur fighter loses, man we GSP fans lived through that same terrible feeling(s) when GSP lost to Serra, lucky but thats part of the game. Just like BJ lost to Pulver, though at least BJ lost 2 IMO the best P4P fighter in the world in GSP, absolutely no shame in losing to GSP!!!
Like I said before, grease and sweat is a two way street. BJ should make a video on his sharp finger nails and eye cutting/poking. Remember his fight with Sean Sherk? Remember his first fight with George? BJ is the only fighter that did not get his nails checked at that fight. BJ is agreat fighter, but George is better. Get over it.
Its so funny how all these comments really mean nothing in reality. Bj penn would destroy all you clowns talking shit with the same cardio as your grandmother. It doesnt matter what you say your just "keyboard warriors". Buahahahaha.
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BJ still got beat. Reguardless of how they put that video together. Stop crying and get back to real training.
At the end of the video, it says that the outcome of the fight is said and done, as long as he doesn't do it again. my thoughts - if that was the outcome of the fight and its all said and done, stop complaining about it like a bitch and accept that you got your ass kicked. If GSP wore armor into that fight, it wouldn't have mattered with how dominant he was against BJ. This is just a case of someone having talked a big game and then not delivering like he said he would. Sore loser to say the least. Don't tarnish the sport, don't be a Pete Rose or Michael Vick, swallow your pride and accept that you were defeated. Fair and Sqaure.
One more thing. millions of people were watching, they're not stupid.
shouldn't bj be worrying about his next fight instead of crying that he was cheated. Take a fucking zoloft or something. Let me just say this, bj's got a hell of a fight coming up and needs to do some serious cardio training, and some serious training for what's ahead of him. His conditioning is seriously a joke. That in combination with GSP's phenomenal conditioning and strength is what made him lose his fight. I hope Kenny Florian kicks the crap out of BJ.
-BJ after that fight, you should go to your bedroom by take your shoes off, lie down in your bed, take about 20 or 30 minutes, and go fuck yourself. P.S. don't forget the vaseline.
I will be the first to addmit that BJ at 170 is not a good weight. GSP kicked his ass no questions asked. But lets examine what BJ has done at 155. He has only lost one fight and that was to Jens Pulver which was a fluk and we all saw how BJ toyed with him in the rematch. At 155 BJ's cardio is good but not at the level of other guys. Ken Flo is a solid fighter and i am looking forward to the fight. But Ken Flo has never beaten a top 10 light weight so let not say he is going to destroy the #1 light weight in BJ Penn. BJ is the best fighter in the world not questions asked. But lets not confusses your dislike for Penn with the fact he is amazing at 155.
Real warriors don't bitch and whine about something as silly as this...BJ lost at every aspect of the fight and GSP dominated. Also GSP team wiped his body down after the first round on because of the complaint....
I meant to say in my perivous post that BJ is the best fighter in the world at 155. Not in the pound for pound rankings. Not even close in that poll
BJ you disgust me ! shame on you!Do yourself a favor and stay at 155 with the "little" guys. He looked fat ,slow and out of shape on the most important fight of his life! GSP is still improving while BJ doesn't bring anything new to the table.Kenny Florian will hand it to him if BJ does not take the fight seriously.
BJ you disgust me ! shame on you!Do yourself a favor and stay at 155 with the "little" guys. He looked fat ,slow and out of shape on the most important fight of his life! GSP is still improving while BJ doesn't bring anything new to the table.Kenny Florian will hand it to him if BJ does not take the fight seriously.
BJ you disgust me ! shame on you!Do yourself a favor and stay at 155 with the "little" guys. He looked fat ,slow and out of shape on the most important fight of his life! GSP is still improving while BJ doesn't bring anything new to the table.Kenny Florian will hand it to him if BJ does not take the fight seriously.
You idiots that comment and call BJ a bitch etc. need to settle down. First it's obvious that you do not grapple or else you would know that even the slightest amount of body slick can completely change the outcome, especially around the shoulders, upper arms and upper back. Those areas are essential for guard control and submissions. It was very apparent during the course of the fight that BJ had a difficult time maintaining any sort of high guard/ rubber guard. Without the ability to control from the bottom, setting up for submissions, sweeps etc becomes virtually impossible and you become subject to the assault from the top. Now you can say that GSP is the better conditioned athlete. I agree. His conditioning is second-to-none and he's one of the best in the world. But that doesn't change the reality that the application of Vaseline to a fighter's back, shoulders and upper arms could and would have had a major effect on the outcome of the fight.
And ps to those of you that call BJ's conditioning a joke; You're retarded. He is an incredible athlete and went 4 rounds with arguably the best pound for pound fighter in the world. Shut the fuck up. If you're such a badass, why the hell aren't you out there?
B. Estrela- You are right on the money with your post.
BJ lives up to his name again. Baby.
Whining, crying, pissing, moaning. A 'warrior born' doesn't quit between rounds.
gsp was the best that night but it makes you think. i remember george talkiing his gameplan wasn't to take him down in the first round but to lean on his arms. now i wonder if he didn't want to be on the ground without some vasoline on his neck, head and back. plus with so many people seeing it happen, makes me wonder if they were looking for it. like some lockeroon rumors... or maybe just pj didnt have the cardio for the 2nd straight time...
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Yeah BJ quit big fucken deal taken an even bigger beating is not worth hurting your future. Have you ever seen what a washed up fighter who took one to many punches to the head its fucken sad. Yeah BJ talked shit and could not back it up. But lets see you get in the ring with BJ and you will walk out looking like he did aganist GSP. All you guys who think Ken Flo is going to beat BJ name me one top 10 light weight Ken Flo has beaten. Like him or not BJ is still the #1 lightweight in the world.
BJ had a lazy rubber guard that night. Anytime he went for mission control he never tried to put GSP's hand on the mat, and he never tried to go for any sweep opportunities.
And if GSP is that greasy, why would BJ try to stay on his back? Wouldn't you try to scramble or get into the butt scoot position and cage walk to your feet if someone is greased up?
You can make all the excuses in the world for BJ, but BJ lost hands down. He better focus on Florian, because if his cardio is the same, I see Kenny taking him out in the later rounds.
GSP is still too much for a smaller and YES outta shape BJ, he laid down for 3 rounds and you call that conditioning? BTW Estrela , stop calling people retards and idiots, some of us are grapplers or practice other martial arts,and WE KNOW how to tell cheating from total domination.There was no vasoline involved when he was getting out-strikked as well.GSP was better ,and it is really funny to see all the fighters that got owned by him (taken down like puppets)say he seemed greasy.Get over it, GSP will loose one day again) and maybe get owned by somebody else ,but doubt he will ever make excuses like this.
gsp(the vaseline fighter) is the greatest MMA cheater of all time
he used vaseline to grease his body for five fights a true and fair fighter
my hero
At that level, any advantage is a huge advantage. I know GSP was dominant, but mma fans know the power of jujitsu to turn a fight around instantaneously. That power is taken away when you use grease.
To those asking why so many are coming out of the woodwork now and accusing GSP: GSP was never caught by the commission before. Now he got caught and that lent credence to all of the fighter's opinions. It allowed them to confess since they were now backed up by real evidence.
They're needs to be a rematch for GSP and Penn's reputation's sake.
B.J. is correct about the effects of vaseline but he is acting like that would have changed the outcome of the fight in which he clearly was outclassed. Then he uses a quote from Matt "the 2-3 when fighting GSP" Hughes. Seriously, B.J. I like how you cropped the video and how you tried to make it look but move on, it is making you look bad.
stop GSP = Greasy slippery people
GSP cheated win or lose he and his corner know better than to pull that garbage at this level. George "vaselino" st pierre has earned his nickname. GSP got caught on tape and by NSAC officials..LOL 3 MMA champions said GSP was greased up by "greasy" phil nurse, Greg "greaser" jackson and Georges
"rush to vaseline" st pierre sat back and let his body get greased up "like they always do" as stated by George" rush to vaseline" st pierre.
They keep showing the Vaseline jar in the cornerman's hands as if thats proof. Hes allowed to have it. The video is deliberately misleading. and what is all this "nice and shiny after the commission wipes him off'" business? the commission wiped him. While I dont grapple, in my experience with vaseline *cough* its not all that difficult to wipe off
people saying that it was wiped off between rounds need to get real,they took one swipe with a towel.go wipe a small amount of vaseline on your arm take one swipe with a towel and see for yourself if that removes it even slightly.it may remove the amount that is visible but see if it is not still slick as snot
These are fans who are obviously not educated in the sport... and not fighters... these are probably the same people who said Santonio Holmes had both feet down or that it wasn't a forward pass by Kurt Warner... haha! I'm not a fighter, but I'm well educated in the sport of mma and understand what I'm watching. But even at that, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that lube, when applied on anything, is slippery. I'm actually a fan of both fighters, but one camp obviously took the term "whatever it takes to win" a little too literally. The video, though obviously biased, does bring up a valid point. And I'm sure if the shoe was on the other foot, all the GSP fans would be crying and complaining too. Did BJ bite off more than he could chew in this fight with GSP? Maybe... but I'd like to see any of you haters and doubters have enough balls to fight a naturally bigger person. BJ always willing to fight the bigger person in itself is commendable.
I've gone for GSP in all of his previous fights with the exception of his fights with BJ. But I think he has his work cut out for him against Thiago Alves, and if he had the balls to move up in weight to face Anderson Silva? I'd really like to read his fan's comments after Silva hands him a massive beating.
BJ, let's clean out the lightweight division, and when the time is right get that rematch... Let GSP grease up again... as long as you could wear sandpaper on your knees and ankles! Let's keep it clean!
GSP is a CHEATER!!!!!!
they knew what they were doing, BJ got screwed!
He could have submitted him early in the 1st or 2nd round if GSP wasn't greased up.
Its hard to argue with that video, at the very least, there should be some efforts by the commission moving forward that examine a fighters skin condition before a fight more than 10 seconds in the "harley davidson prep point."
BJ has a legit complaint, and there does seem to be a trend with GSP and slipperiness (if thats a word?).
Cheating is found in any and every sport, and should not be ignored. Regardless of what fighter you support or believe, video and others' previous experience with GSP leads me to believe that he broke the rules...and there should be consequences. That said, I dont know if I want to see Penn-GSP 3, BJ got F'd in his A.
It's too bad BJ has decided to try and smear (pun intended) GSP's name over this. Guys get sweaty and slippery after the 1st round anyway. It is bad for the sport to take it this far. Just correct the corner issues so that little whiners like BJ have no excuses. Certain people can just have oily sweaty skin - maybe BJ can ask for an alcohol bath between rounds to make people as easy to hold on to as possible.
BJ is a top notch bjj fighter!Those attempts in the early rounds could've easily been done if Grease St. Pierre wasn't slick.
I'm glad that BJ’s camp but out that little video I enjoyed seeing him lose again. Apparently all it takes to beat him is a little Vaseline.
This is truly pathetic. B.J. Penn got worked in every aspect of the game. Even a hardcore B.J. Penn fan who thinks GSP is shit has to admit that BJ simply didn't show up that night. Wah wah wah, his back was slippery??? What the fuck. Watch the video, first of all he is slipping off GSPs shoulders for the most part, not his back. Second of all, its called sweat. Third of all, even if there was a small amount of vaseline, do you think it stays there when it is rubbed? No it doesn't. That is why they reapply it to the fighters faces every round.
If BJ Penn's camp had any common sense they would drop this shit. What a shame for GSP's stellar performance to be tainted by all this bullshit. Honestly though, anyone who thinks that GSP was cheating, or even that it happened accidentally and somehow changed the fight, needs to wake up.
BJ Penn is a joke.
I love all these other morons coming out of the woodwork now to say that GSP "felt slippery." Do you think there is a reason they didn't mention that before?? God damn this is ridiculous.
BJ is a disgrace and embarrasment to the whole MMA community and his fans.He's a spoiled fat cry ass whiner who keeps making himself look like a dumbass.Get over Pudgy!!Kenny's gonna give you a beating with a fury of elbows thats gonna split that melon head of yours into retirement.
Quote Dave Chappelle "... everything looks better in slow motion". Does people forget that GSP is constantly moving and at a fast speed. When it's all said and done, BJ didn't show up..
I've watched most of the mma events over the last several years...I saw the first fight between BJ nad GSP...He didn't get a submission hold in that fight either? Why would it be different in this fight? Also you hear Joe Rogan state sometime during "every" fight that after the first round fighters are so slippery with sweat that you can't keep a hold?
This is so silly..BJ lost...plain and simple...Own up admit it and move on...As for the other fighters Matt Hughes et al..He never had any respect for GSP..Has always talked smack and it must kill him that Gsp dominated him the last two fights!! It's about what I would expect there?,...
hey B. Estrella- you said everyone should shut up about bj's conditioning, and that he went 4 rounds with perhaps the best pound for pound fighter in the world. one thing wrong with that statement. its a 5 round fight. i've never heard of a 4 round title fight. he was tired after round one, and just hung around for a couple more. i wish gsp would have knocked him out, but the bottom line is, bj's corner gave up after round 4. ROUND 4, not ROUND 5, the number of rounds in a title fight. i think its quite fair for people to talk about his conditioning. biggest fight of his career, and he didnt show up. he went into the ring cocky and arrogant and gsp shut him up. bj is alot better at 155. but i do hope he loses to KEN FLO
What a bitch ass whiner...when is bj gona grow up and act like a man...he got beat big time...admit it...and move on already..
As much as I like BJ & GSP, I can't see the outcome being any different in this fight! GSP was fighting in his weight class, BJ wasn't! BJ, you need to concentrate on smashing up the light weights, you will lose fans if you carry on with the "greasegate" accusations. GSP is a special talent in his weight class, as are you in the light weight division. Forget about the defeat and move on. Maybe you have proved that greasing does go on, but you know for sure that every fighter will be getting a wipe down before the next round in future. BJ & GSP are both future Hall of Famers without a doubt. Let's all move on!
BJ. Let it go dude. You got beat by GSP...again. Why should you ever get a third shot at him? You only make trilogy's when both guys have a win against each other. You blew it. Maybe next time you should actually put in the work instead of taking your mid-training vacations eating your pineapple pizzas you lazy prick. You are just not as good as you think you are. You are the best LW in the world IMO so just be happy with that and stay down there instead of trying to be this so-called legend you think you can be by holding 2 belts at once. You aren't even the best fighter of your generation much less of all time you douchebag.
BJ Penn is a quitter. if the grease mattered so much how come he couldnt do shit in rounds 3 and 4 and quit...the warrior spirit doesnt quit. obviously he reads the French version of warrior spirit. GSP kicked his ass and i would like to see gsp v penn. it would be like Shamrock vs ortiz. penn will never beat gsp unless gsp has his hands tied behind his back
The way I see it which no one has mentioned is that there is all this controversy to build up another fight between the 2. If bj had won there would definitely have been a third fight since they would have been 1-1 NOW, since there is controversy it might happen anyway. There has been more than 1 fight in the UFC that has made me question certain things. I just hope the corruption in boxing doesnt make its way into the UFC. That would truly be a shame. But at the end of the day sadly, its always about the money.
I'm really glad to see that nobody is buying into this BS from BJ. Nate M. said it best on sound off "the commission caught it, didn't disqualify him, checked it in between rounds, and the fight continued". Time to give it a rest BJ, you are beatable and not only that, you got your ass kicked. BJ Penn is the whiniest fighter in MMA.
damn i think i jus lost all respect for bj after this video.
I lost respect for GSP from this video. I know BJ would have a tough time with GSP's size but negating BJ's ground abilities by illegally applying a Slicking Agent is cheating. The commission should do something about GSP and rule to bout a no contest and then Dana should have the two guys fight again.
the fighter just sits there listening to his coach and his trainers while other guys do there stuff,the fighter is focused on his trainer and on not what others are doing.
Yes, GSP looks nice and shiny in the 3rd and 4th, but i'd love to see one fight where at least one of the fighters isn't shiny in the 3rd or 4th round. YES, GSP slips through BJ's guard more than once, but he WAS sweaty, and fighters train extensively to get out of those situations. GSP just flat out beat BJ, I have a lot of respect for BJ as a fighter, he's a very talented guy, but he got outclassed in this fight. The parts of this fight you DON'T see are when GSP is out striking BJ on the feet, when he's taking BJ down at will, when BJ is looking exhausted after the 1st round because he's NOT IN SHAPE. Vasoline, no vasoline, BJ was outmatched, and unless his gameplan was to lay on his back and try to submit St. Pierre in the 1st round before he got sweaty, he's got no excuse for his performance. in EVERY aspect of the fight he was overwhelmed, he lost, and he deserved to lose. Just suck it up BJ, kick some ass at lightweight, cement your legacy that way, and stop tainting it with all the bullshit.
I think alot of people seem to miss the point here:
No matter how dominant GSP was he might have been illegaly greased up.
In any sports people sholdn't cheat to win and should be punished if they do.
I'm not well versed in the UFC rules to make a comment about exactly what happened and what is allowed, I just say that if somebody cheats they should suffer the consequenses, no matter if they were domination or not.
Sidenote: For the record GSP is my favourite fighter all-time and I hope he continues to be as dominant as he currently is.
/Mattias - Sweden
ok lets be straight forward, the reason why people dont care as much as they(i guess)shouold is because this guy had a f*cken big mouth, lazy, spoiled ass, cry baby, and it pissed me off how he bad mouthed gsp. this dude was relaxing in the beach with the hot sun on his body checking out chicks and shit while gsp was in litterally 2 degree whether training his ass off. now i dont know about the rest of you guys but after the 1st round bj was finshed, he was so tired and so out of breath, completely drained, so vaseline in my opinion really didnt make that much of a differance to me, the kid would still have gotten his ass beat in the long run, but i hope gsp learned his lesson and doesnt do that shit again cus its now all eyes on him(not in a good way)
to all you calling out bj, show fucking some respect to one of the best fighters in the world. whether gsp meant to do it it is still illegal. if you know anything about fighting vaseline is a bjj fighters worst nightmare. if you watch the fight again bj tries defending by bringing his gaurd up high but his legs slide right down. that is why it is illegal. i believe the fight should happen again because as everyone knows it is illegal. all you pussies need get a lives and stop trying to talk shit over the internet.
bjs faught much bigger guys than gsp and didnt have that kind of trouble so i think it should deffinitely happen again
Yep, I agree. That rematch should be set ASAP. It's a crying shame that it wasn't set for today's UFC 95. I'd LOVE to see BJ get smashed and forced to quit like Georges' little bitch again. Hey BJ, (I KNOW you're reading this forum - as vain as you are), let this be a lesson regarding talking smack to your opponent. Guess what? Next time the beating will be worse. You WERE one of the world's best. Releasing that video instead of holding a proper press conference just lowered your once hall-of-fame status to desperate BUM.
I can't wait till BJ steps in the ring again and all the fans boo and throw pacifiers and diapers in the ring at him.Dam,I'll pay anything to see that.He's made himself look like such an idiot for pressing this issue with the vaseline...lol...What a disgrace to the sport BJ...Just do us all a favor and QUIT again ya loser!
THIS IS CALLED FOR PUNISHMENT!!!!
ZUFFA-DANA-NSAC-AND EVERYBODY
LETS THROW GSP TO THE WOLVES
GIVE HIM ANDERSON "SPIDER" SILVA!!
LOL!! TEACH HIS ASS A LESSON ABOUT VASELINE AND CHEATING!!!! DA FUK EZ WRONG WITH GEORGE!!?????!!!???
Has anyone seen a fight where bj was in a guard position? He ties the opponent up and goes for the submission. That's his thing. How anyone can say that gsp being greased-up didn't make a difference, you are just kidding yourselves.
I do have to agree, though...GSP needs to move up to middleweight and fight Anderson Silva. He really has dominated the 170lb class...greased-up, or not.
LOL LMFAO HAHAHA!!! I cannot believe the idiots on this site & all the other sites crying over the fact that BJ got owned & that the lil, almost invisible amount of vaseline had anything to do with BJ's embaressing loss.
1. If there was any vaseline on his back there R 2 commission workers in the octogone b4 GSP enters or at the same time, anyway if there was a large amount of vaseline that all u BJ fans claim there was, the 2 commission workers would have wiped it off or did whatever they felt necessary to make sure there was no "advantage" to any fighter.
2. Some dumb ass wrote in his blog that they only wiped GSP's back once & that was it... well sorry stupid the video only shows them wipping GSP down once, while they actually did it a few times & they almost "rubbed" off GSP's skin, thats how hard they wiped the "invisible" vaseline off GSPs back, pathetic losers.
3. When u C this video which is clearly made 2 make it look like GSP was trying to cheat, which again is pathetic 4 whomever created this video, not hard to tell ur a BJ Penn nut huggen faggot, Y didnt u show all of the video & the facts? nice propaganda job u idiot. Pretty sad in todays society that even MMA site(s) R "bias" towards their own fav fighter. (the above video is proof, since the idiot who created that vid only show half the "truth")
4. If u C the video of Nurse putting a lil bit of vaseline on his fingers, look @ the fight again & look @ Nurses hand, he has a dab of vaseline (just like they do in boxing! vaseline on the back of the hand) on the back part of his hand, so he can dab his fingers in it & rub the SMALL AMOUNT of vaseline on GSPs face.
LOOK @ the almost impossible to C vaseline Nurse puts on his fingers & rubs on GSPs face/cheeks/chin/nose/eyebrows/forehead & then rubs GSPs temples with the same amount of vaseline he put on his fingers 2 rub on GSPs face. (the 1st & only time u C Nurse dab his fingers into the very small amount of vaseline from the back part of his hand is when Nurse dabs his fingers into the vaseline @ the beginning of the "break" in between rounds, as shown above in the video) After Nurse rubs the vaseline on GSPs face/cheeks/chin/nose/eyebrows/forehead & then rubs GSPs temples he then goes to rubbing GSPs shoulders for a few seconds & then GSPs back (top) & then taps GSPs chest to end the "ritual" that even Couture & afew other MMA fighters use during their 1 min breaks.
5. After u read what I wrote above, go & watch the fight, not half of the propaganda made video above, watch the full movie with the clips of what I wrote about above, U will C the truth. Look @ the amount of vaseline Nurse put on his fingers & look @ the time he rubbed GSPs face B4 he started to rub GSPs shoulders & back, then comeback here & tell me if u think the lil amount of vaseline that "MIGHT" of been left on Nurses fingers was enough to rub on BJs lips, let alone to make BJS legs 2 slide down GSPs back like they did... b/c of the sweat. AGAIN!!! look @ the amount of vaseline that could of been left (which is a joke 2 even think that the lil tiny amount of vaseline was enough to make BJS legs slide down due to amouont of vaseline that might of been still on Nurses fingers after rubbing 98% of the vaseline on GSPs face.)
Also, dont forget... not only was there not enough vaseline 2 put on BJs lips, but how in the hell did GSP have so much vaseline on his back (according to BJ & company/fans) that the commission people & even ref never noticed it while they R standing right there inches away from GSP & crew? How did the lil amount of vaseline if there was any left, still B on GSPs back after the commission wiped GSPs back very hard after each round with towels?!? BUSTED!
6. If there was sooo much vaseline on GSPs back like BJ & Fans/F@Gs clim there was, then where in the fuck did it go? How can u say GSP was covered in so much vaseline that all that vaseline was the reason BJs legs kept sliding down?!? Y didnt BJ or his corner or the ref notice all the vaseline? How did BJ not notice all that vaseline on his arms, hands & legs after BJ had his hands & arms on GSPs shoulders in the 1st round while GSP was going 4a takedown? BJ had his filthy paws all over GSPs back & shoulders, yet BJ wasnt covered in vaseline & most importantly didnt notice it...hummm weird isnt it?!? After the 1st round BJ was on his back for about 12-13 mins out of 15mins, so BJ is telling us that his legs were sliding down all b/c of vaseline & not sweat... again Y didnt BJ have his legs & feet all covered in vaseline? b/c his legs & feet would of been covered & all have this "thick substance" that vaseline is when its rubbed onto ur skin, but I guess the "special/magical" vaseline got rubbed off/vanished after each round, so BJ couldnt notice or show this "magical grease" being on him from GSP! WEIRD AGAIN, WEIRD
7. How does BJ not know or feel the vaseline on his hands, arms, fingers, legs, feet, and/or on any part of his body? If there was any vaseline, especially the huge amount u BJ losers/cry babies say there was, then Y didnt BJ notice the vaseline & complain during the fight? y didnt his corner say anything? how did the ref not see it? Weird how BJ & his clan only brought up the vaseline situation after BJ got owned & made a fool by GSP (for many many reasons, that was brought on by BJ & his big mouth). BJ took the opportunity 4 a perfect (in his eyes & his stupid fans eyes) Xcuse
which was the reason Y he lost the fight... vaseline!!! Thats even pathetic 4 BJ. AGAIN if the commission thought there was an unfair advantage @ any time they would have steped in & did the appropriate steps 2 correct the "error". They thought there was a lil vaseline on GSPs back & they rubbed it off after each round, case closed.
8. If there is 1 fighter who would kick, scream & cry if he thought he was "cheated" in a fight it would B BJ. If BJ really thought there was vaseline involved, he would of noticed it in the fight, BJ would of been covered with vaseline, his corner would of seen it and/or felt it in between rounds. BJ would have created a fucking "war" over this "scheme" if BJ really thought GSP cheated, but BJ like most of us real MMA fans & fighters know the difference. There was no xtra vaseline on GSP, & if there was the commission wiped it all off.
9. BJ doesnt notice any vaseline on him, yet he cries about GSP being "greasy" after the 1 way ass kicking, BJ doesnt cry or make a plea about GSP cheating, until hours later, but not while the "cheating" was going on & could/would of busted GSP 4 cheating, b/c thats all the commission had to do was the touch GSP's body & they would of found nothing..... I mean the large amount of vaseline that apparently dissapears b4 the fighter gets to his stool. Lime a few of u idiots who think ur helping BJ with ur comments, only prove GSP did not cheat, not even close. HOW?!? U BJ fan idiots R wondering is simple... 1 of u said if u tried to wipe vaseline off u with a towel, once (which is what u assumed they only did it once, when they actually did it a few times & very hard) the vaseline would still be there on ur body, b/c of how vaseline is... then according 2 U (which I agree with 110% about the vaseline still being on ur body if it wasnt properly wiped off) how did BJ not get any on his body? since its xtremely hard to really get off ur skin, then how did all that vaseline "on GSPs body" dissapear or how did BJ not notice any of it being on his body?!? AGAIN!! b/c there wasnt any there, so y dont u losers look 4 another Xcuse, b/c this one is shit, terrible, pathetic & even worst, its embaressing for many people (BJs fans, family & trainers) but most important, the person who should feel very very stupid & embaressed is urs truly... BJ "I am the only person not 2 blame 4 my losses" Penn. I'm sure BJs still having trouble swallowing those razor blades. LOL hahahah idiots!!!
*** BTW, Y didnt BJ make an ass out of him-self if he really thought GSP cheated by complaining or getting 100 TV news outlets to fly out to Hawaii & call out GSP 4 being a cheater etc etc etc?!? Also BJ's 1st interview was over 2 weeks after the fight, pretty quiet 4 a guy who got raped & owned in front of millions, especially by a guy who "cheated" according to BJ. BJ staying quiet & not saying anything is proof enough BJ knows he lost to a better fighter who never cheated.
WE all KNOW BJ would have did or said something & would still be saying shit if he thought 4 one second GSP actually cheated.
As 4 those fighters who got owned by GSP in the past... especially Matt Hughes, quite ironic & funny that Hughes claims GSP on "felt greasy" in the 2 fights GSP won & not the 1st fight Hughes won, lmfao convinient dont u think?!?
& 2 not say anything until now?!? lol nice try Hughes u pussy ass F@G, another cry baby. Hughes would pick GSP out of a lineup 4 murder, even if the suspects description was a Chinese or Japanise women, thats how pathetic & mad Hughes is @ GSP. WE all knew the day after the GSP VS Fitch fight Hughes was/is such a sore loser. After the 3rd round of the GSP & Fitch fight, Hughes said he left after the 3rd round b/c he said the fight sucked and that GSP looked terrible in that fight, Hughes even said GSP shouldnt even B considered 4 the P4P fighter in the world, after the Fitch fight. I was like WTF! R U serious?!? but Hughes was dead serious, all b/c GSP said Fitch was the best test/fighter GSP had ever fought, so Hughes got insulted & cried.
Though there R a few fighters who say GSP felt greasy while they fought him, but never said 1 word back then, only now after the invisible vaseline conspiracy joke. Talk about sore losers & extremely pathetic, I think Serra said GSP was "greasy" in their 2nd fight... weird/ironic that they only complain about when GSP beat them but not when they beat GSP. "Ohhh ya when I won VS GSP it wasnt greasy at all, only when I lost did he feel greasy" lol lmfao hahaha talk about grasping 4 paper think straws, my god I feel bad for the 2 Matts, their almost as bad as BJ. The 3 of them should B sponsored by kleenex, god knows they cry alot/enough to promote the tissue, lol idiots.
Fitch, Koscheck, Trig never had any problems with GSP being greasy, lol wonder y it is the only people who complain R those who got owned & made a fool of by GSP. Hughes alone could b GSPs highlight reel all on his own, & Serra didnt even hit GSP once with a punch in their 2nd fight, so I assume thats an embaressing ass beating, especially with the trash talk Serra was saying as well. LOL
4 those who say BJ does use his high guard/rubber guard is true, but has he tried that on people the size of GSP as well as the strength GSP has?!? Strength alone can prevent u form being sub.... let alone a guy whos not only stronger than anyone is his weight class, but to fight VS a guy whos a LW, come on idiots use ur brains, BJs not that good (in regards to his skill being strong enough to prevent GSPs strength from stoping BJs attempts of a sub)
Get the fuck out of here, look @ the fight & listen to GSPs comments about what he did 2 prevent BJ from using his high guard... GSP trained 4 that which is Y BJ couldnt do anything about it, but GSPs strength alone would of prevented BJ from getting anything close to a sub on GSP. GSP postering/standing up makes BJs legs slide down, its called physics 4 u morons like BJ, & also GSP said & u C it in the fight... GSP said every time BJ tried 4 a high guard or a sub, GSP would keep his head above BJs head, which immediately prevents BJ from
doing anything sub wise. AS I said read my long ass "book" & this then go watch the fight & u will see GSP had such an incredible game plan BJ was done b4 he even stepped into the octogone. Think with ur heads & common sence, and not with ur hearts. I know it sucks when ur fighter loses, man we GSP fans lived through that same terrible feeling(s) when GSP lost to Serra, lucky but thats part of the game. Just like BJ lost to Pulver, though at least BJ lost 2 IMO the best P4P fighter in the world in GSP, absolutely no shame in losing to GSP!!!
Like I said before, grease and sweat is a two way street. BJ should make a video on his sharp finger nails and eye cutting/poking. Remember his fight with Sean Sherk? Remember his first fight with George? BJ is the only fighter that did not get his nails checked at that fight. BJ is agreat fighter, but George is better. Get over it.
Its so funny how all these comments really mean nothing in reality. Bj penn would destroy all you clowns talking shit with the same cardio as your grandmother. It doesnt matter what you say your just "keyboard warriors". Buahahahaha.
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