Tuesday, August 25, 2009

Revisiting Fedor, Couture Says It Would Have to Happen in the Octagon

Randy Couture is heading into a main event fight at UFC 102 this weekend, facing the very tough Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira. Fedor Emelianenko snuffed the UFC and took his toys with him over to Strikeforce.

Yet Couture is still plagued by the Sisyphean questions about the two meeting in the ring.

Couture was asked the question again at a recent UFC 102 media call, and you could hear the weariness of the question in his answer.

"I've already been down that road (leaving the UFC to fight Fedor) and I spent more than 13 months trying to find a way to fight him somewhere else because it didn't look like it would happen in the UFC," Couture retorted.

"I think that the best thing that could happen for me right now is for him to come to the UFC. I think sooner or later he's gonna have to come to the UFC, hopefully I'm still around and in the shape I'm in now to be able to fight him.

"If the fight's gonna happen, I think it's gonna happen in the UFC."

It obviously sounds as if the 46-year-old former UFC champion intends to finish out his career with the promotion, but the tone of his voice didn't hold out much hope that Fedor would find his way to the Octagon before Couture leaves his shoes on the mat one final time.

38 comments:

Anonymous said...

...If Fedor walks through Strikeforce's HW Division winning the belt, defends it and he still choses to fight, the UFC would be his most logical option. Fedor would cement his legendary status as the very best HW in MMA history if he comes to the UFC and wins the belt...

Anonymous said...

Fedor doesn't need the UFC to be considered the best, he already is the best. The UFC would cement his legacy to UFC fans, most mma fans who have any clue already know who the best HW is and who it has been for a long time!

Tice said...

Fedor's bitch ass needs to come to UFC. Only fighters in Strikeforce are Fabricio Werdum (who UFC cut cause he couldn't beat any big names), Andre Arlovski (who Fedor already beat), and Allstair Overeem who is over rated. Fedor is scared of UFC's fighters. UFC shouldn't even try to get him anymore. Waste of fucking time.

Anonymous said...

Who cares about Randy anymore. I hope Nog destroys him and he goes away.

Anonymous said...

Come on wake up guys , look at is record fedor only fight guy that or not in they prime anymore, Andrei "The Pitbull" Arlovski,Tim Sylvia,Hong-Man Choi,Matt Lindland,Mark Hunt,Mark Coleman, Zuluzinho (a nobody),Mirko Filipović,Tsuyoshi KohsakaAntonio Rodrigo Nogueira,Naoya Ogawa,Kevin Randleman etc COME ON THIS IS NOT THE BEST IN THE WORLD WAKE UP.UFC shouldn't even try to get him anymore. Waste of fucking time. Stay with your fucking M1 shit...........

Anonymous said...

Tice stop sucking the ufc's dick fucking fagg. Fedor does not need to listen to some nobody on a dam internet forum named Tice. The fuck kind of name is Tice anyways you need to get a life loser

Anonymous said...

Fedor doesn't need to prove himself to anyone. The top HWs should be pursuing him, not the other way around. He's the man to beat and he's proven that. If you want to talk about HWs in their prime in the UFC, there isn't really anyone, maybe Brock Lesner but he's only fought a couple fights. Fedor shouldn't be blamed because of the politics. MMA isn't a part of UFC. It's the other way around.

TICE said...

Hey fuck face Anonymous, like how you're a big talker but won't put your name down, pussy. Just look at the list of Fedor's fights. Not a single fighter is still in their prime anymore. Arlovski and Cro Cop are doing the best out of all his accomplishments and Arlovski was Ko'ed by Brett Rogers for fuck's sake. Fedor has not faced the new talent. I hate Brock but he is fucking good. There's also Shane Carwin, Frank Mir, and Cain Velasquez. Not to mention the fight everybody has wanted to see with him and Couture. Fedor wants to be the undisputed to heavyweight then he needs to go to UFC cause Strikeforce fucking blows. They are like the minors full of former UFC contenders and PAST champions. So ANONYMOUS go eat a dick.

Rampage said...

Hey Tice don't worry with those pussy they are fake newbies MMA fan's. I in the MMA world since the ufc 1 and i watch all the best show and i use to realy love the Pride FC and you are right on Fedor case so don't listen to newbie botch heheheh.
Just look at the Fedor vs Babalu fight he coul'd even finish this guy so........... it tell every thing and the worth fight was against Matt matt lindland at BodogFight the fucker of Fedor grab the rope on a take down to then reverse Matt to win the fight allo allo allo.... bitch

Anonymous said...

Fedor knows he can't win fights against UFC heavyweights nemore...maybe in his prime but that is past...Why esle would he not come to the UFC, if he is worried about M1 I bet the exposure of being a UFC champion would help, so would a fat contract, fedor is not on my top 5 P4P..thats right i said it

Anonymous said...

I just don't see how anyone can say that Fedor is the best HW in the world until he comes to the UFC and wins the belt. Yes, he has beat some decent fighters in his career (Cro Cop, Nogueira, Arlovski, Sylvia) but are any of those guys champion in the UFC right now? No. If he comes to the UFC, wins the belt and defends it just once, I'll jump on the "Fedor best HW in the world" bandwagon.

Anonymous said...

Rampage - Good call on the Lindland fight. Fedor had to cheat to beat a 185 pounder... Not saying Lindland is better than Fedor but he left me scratching my head on why he's considered the greatest. And a fight with Hong-Man Choi puts you in the gimmick circuit. (Jose Canseco? Really?)

Anonymous said...

Some MMA fans believe Fedor doesn't need to prove himself by fighting in the UFC but when it's all over some people will be asking the same questions they have about the great heavyweight boxer Jack Johnson: Didn't he ducked a lot of the top talent in his days?

Anonymous said...

Shane Carwin vs fedor would not be good fight, just to the fact that gonzaga can rock him. Fedor needs a real test, i hate Brock Lesnar but he would probably shit on fedor, take downs and brute strength.

frank mir is always fighting 70% not 100% like he used to, if it was old mir vs fedor, game over.

Unknown said...

tice and some of these other keyboard studs obviously haven't followed mma outside of the ufc. that's fine, but just be aware that anyone who really knows the game knows that fedor is the best in the world. better than andy, gsp, and the rest of your ufc heros.the only guy that is close in pure talent is penn. the more you guys get on here and cuss and swear and talk as ridiculous as you do about such a great fighter the more it shows you have no credibility, and probably even less brain power. think for yourself. don't just listen to your dad dana.

Anonymous said...

fedor is a fucking pussy is right, and he has fought nobodies, well mayb 1 r 2 namely cro cop, alvolski and mir! cuddnt stop laughing at dana whites video on how shite strikeforce is and there a bunch of losers with no money, somebody pointed out below, if fedor went to the UFC m-1 will get so much publicity after, i hope it goes down like affliction and other shabby MMA event companies,and to the prick below,MMA is not a part of UFC yes, but it wuddnt be where its is 2day without the UFC, UFC made MMA wat it is 2day,

Zuffa said...

100 years from now fedor will not be remembered b/c he never fought in the UFC they own most of the MMA Market now and will only get bigger, every new mma fan after fedor retires will never know who he was, and thats just the way it is unless your delusional.

It doesnt matter if your the best..If nobody else nows it.

Anonymous said...

Hey keyboard queer Tice and fakepage aswell as you fucking ufc fagg your all failure inlife. Fedor does not need some idiot name tice or a fake ass rampage wanna be to tell him what he needs to do with his life.
I swear you ufc nutt hugging fags are a waste of humanity

Anonymous said...

oh and Tice eating a dick is what you do best. Especially if it's zuffas dick.

Larry said...

Fedor is not the best in the world and never has been. He is good at showing how a good top ten dispatches lower level competition. He could not finish Babulu, as someone else pointed out, he barely beat Fujita who was destroyed by Wanderlai, a light heavy. The only notable fights that are worth anything are the Nogueira fights, where he eeked out a decision. This is also why Mirko Cro-Cop looked indestructible until he fought top level fighters. Now Fedor is going to fight Brett Rodgers? Who knocked out an already fading arlovski. Look, I was a fedor fan too until I saw what he was doing...ducking top level fights. In order to cement his legacy, he should have come to the UFC and fought the top dogs. Until then, which will never happen, he has lost my respect.

Anonymous said...

Strike force is a joke and fedor is a punk for not wanting the best competition possible. Fedor is definitely one of the best fighters out there, and is the best heavyweight out there. The difference between him and gsp, bj and the spider is that he doesn't want the best competition possible and they do. M1 is controlling him and protecting him against the new fighters. For all of the die hard fedor fans, realize he doesn't give a shit about the fans, the sport, or his legacy or he would want to fight randy, brock, or the other up-and=comers.

Anonymous said...

The only punks are the idiots in here who are talking smack about a fighter they would not have the balls to insult to his face. Let them hate on Fedor because they are cowards who probably have never had a fight in their pathetic lifes.

Anonymous said...

For all you die hard Fedor fans, you relly need some help. If you were defending your brother or boyfriend maybe I could understand, but you fags must jerk off to this guy before you go to sleep. seriously, the guy fights, what does he do for you? i am an mma fan but I hope I am never as fucked up as you where I fall in love with a fat, bald headed russian.

Anonymous said...

I disagree people like you who worship zuffa like they are your god need help but what do you expect you people are like cattle and can't think for yourself.

Anonymous said...

Alvin- FEDOR SHOULD BE CALLED A GREAT FIGHTER...BUT CALLING HIM THE BEST FIGHTER IS IMPOSSIBLE IF HE DOESN'T FIGHT THE BEST...WHICH HAPPENS TO BE IN THE UFC!

Anonymous said...

Fedor hasn't beaten a single fighter worth jack. He's clowned some washups and some overrated bozos. Get in the ring ho!

JohnnyZ said...

When you really look at it Fedor hasn't had a legitimate challenge since late 2005. Coleman, Hunt, Lindland(185 lber), Choi, Sylvia and Arlovski, this list does not warrant the #1 HW ranking in the world. When he fought Nog in Pride Nog was in his Prime and one of the best HWs on the planet. Fedor whooped Nog twice in 2003 and 2004, and Cro-Cop once in 2005. Those are the last fights anyone can argue he fought top or even good competition. Sylvia was choked out by Nog, thrashed by Couture after couture had a one year lay-off, and KOd by a 40something Ray Mercer.(yes the boxer with almost no MMA experience) Arlovski isn't any better after being destroyed by an inexperienced Brett Rogers early first round.

Needless to say fans will just keep coming on here and stating Fedors case with no evidence to support it. Fedor had the chance to sign with the biggest organization with the deepest talent pool, something kept him away and it wasn't money.

Just keep writing Fedor is the best HW, hell even the best P4P in the world. If you keep repeating that you will brainwash yourself into believing it. "Real MMA fans" do research and support their points with fights that aren't 4 to 5 years old.

It's not a cold Syberian breeze getting the Russian duck artist to become a shivering bitch, it's the threat of real competition.

JohnnyZ said...

One more thing....

This has nothing to do with supporting the UFC!!!! Why do you sorry ass UFC hating faggots keep calling realistic fans who recognize where the talent is "cattle" or "sheep"???? I understand you will feel like your conforming if you watch the UFC, but if you dont where do you go to watch consistant talent???? Rogers is the best match-up for a so called P4P champion? Who the hell is Mousasi going to fight for his first defense, Mike Whitehead or Kevin Randleman? Robbie Lawler beats Scott Smith twice.... Scott Smith beats Benji Radach.... Scott Smith after the fight suggests Lawler fights Radach, WHAT???? Instead Strikefarce sets up MW Lawler vs WW Shields, again WHAT???? Most of these guys are UFC throw-aways. Have fun not conforming and remember, Fedor is the bestiest!

Anonymous said...

Ali was the best. Tyson was the best. Randy was the best... its not about who was the best, its about who is the best.

Taking inspiration from past greats and looking to evolve into a better, superior fighter is the nature of the beast. Unless we look forward, we will always be stuck one step behind.

Fedor has to look forward and understand that unless he fights "the best", no matter which organization has them, he will always be a "was the best". I just don't see three fights in Strikeforce, that anyone whom acknowledges Fedor as the best, can fairly justify as worthy of fighting such a great champ. Bret Rodgers is worthy of fighting him??? Or someone who has been sitting on a belt saying he can't fight for over a year???

The fact is that he needs to fight the best to be the best. Ufc has the strongest division of HW... PERIOD. If Strikeforce had it, then I would say great, but they don't. It doesn't make him look any better to turn down the best for a circus act like Strikeforce.

Tyson was knocking MF's out left and right, but he "was the best". We live in the here and now... take inspiration from the greats before us and move forward people. We only stand on top for such a small time, and to see someone so great like Fedor pass by an opportunity to fight others that are becoming the great's of today is just disturbing. Is he stuck in the Then rather than the Now? I just don't see Strikeforce as the Now. Sorry

JohnnyZ said...

I get on here daily tring to get the last guys point across. It doesn't matter what flag the fighters fight under.... as a fan I want to see the best fights, period. Whether you love or hate the UFC they are settling the who would beat who debate. Unfortunately Fedor is missing out on these great fights.He has alot more to lose if he loses to the current competition. He has alot more to gain if he beats the fighters the UFC has to offer. He is not getting any younger.

The last comment inspires nothing less than an "Amen Brother"!

Anonymous said...

fedor doesnt need to find the lesser compitition with him being the best. If someone wants to prove that fedor is no longer the best and that they are. They need to find him and fight him, no matter what organization he is in.

JohnnyZ said...

Riiiight:#1-give up a spot in the biggest organization knowing you could burn a bridge.#2-Give up the top shelf endorsements that pay you a ton of money.#3-Run to an organization where even if you knock off Fedor, who's next????

And even if you don't care about #s1-3,there is a little thing called a contract that could prohibit that move anyway.

Normally this is where I call you STUPID, but by calling one guy more important than any other fighter, you kind of called yourself stupid didn't you???? STUPID!(sorry couldn't resist)

All of you Fedor cult members with the 13 year old hero worship mentality need to realize Fedor is not bigger than the sport that made him a great, and yes I do realize just how great he WAS!

Anonymous said...

I see a lot of recurring nonsense arguments on this board and I am going to go through them one by one.

1) Werdum was kicked out of the UFC because he couldn't beat any of the top names.
-Wrong! He went to decision with AA (who was #2 UFC fighter but was disfavored because of Dana's secret beef with him), beat Gonzaga (who was still riding post-Cro Cop hype) and Brandon Vera (who was nearly undefeated at that stage and was considered the next big thing). He got caught by Dos Santos and Dana capitalized on the opportunity to fire him. W. Silva and Liddell lost back to back but Dana didn't kick them out.

2) Fedor, like Tyson and Ali, was the best but the question of who is the best requires Fedor's joining UFC.
-Fedor is not only known as the best HW but also the best P4P and most importantly greatest of all time. He has made more influences to the sport of MMA than anyone else. The HW king rules all. Sugar Ray Leonard/Robinson are considered P4P kings. But Ali is still considered the greatest because HW division in combat sport rules all. A true king pin. Absent artifical weight classes, Fedor would kill everyone.

3) Fedor is scared to fight UFC fighters.
-Umm...yeah... So when he fought Sylvia and AA he somehow magically knew that they were washed up? No one knew that Sylvia and AA were washed up until after the Fedor-fights. They were respectively #5 and #2 when they fought Fedor. Fedor took so much risk in facing these top contenders (especially AA who looked better than ever and stylistically a tough opponent for Fedor) and I don't think he would be scared to face Lesnar.

4) Randy Couture has the best chance of beating Fedor
-No. Brock does. Randy is still riding his Sylvia/Gonzaga fame from few years ago. He lucked out with Sylvia and Gonzaga proved to be another Sokodju. Randy got owned by Barnett and Ricco..let's not forget.

5) Fedor fights weak opponents.
-Yes he does. He fights more weak opponents than most other champs. But he has 30 fights under his belt. And 5 of them were against #1 contenders.

JohnnyZ said...

This is a reply to the last display of ignorance, and I will only adress one point made, I am honestly sick of talking Fedor!No fighter is entitled anything more than anyone else unless they beat the top comp. Entitlment is earned with victories.

Werdum asked for and was granted his release, HE WASN'T KICKED OUT!!!! He beat Vera on what most called an early stoppage.Vera now fights where he belongs at 205LBs. Werdum has lost to all top comp in the last 4 years except for beating Gonzaga. Minotauro, Kharitonov and Arlovski, all losses.

The UFC will do just fine without your cult hero. You are NOT a true fan. You choose one fighter over the sport itself. Fedor isn't the biggest draw here. Affliction would still be around if he was. UFC puts up the big viewership #s with a huge aray of talent, not one overhyped HW that makes hand picked appearances in 2nd rate promotions.

JohnnyZ said...

One more thing....

Nobody said Randy would have the best chance of beating Fag-dor. I just think not only would Randy beat him, if I were Dana I would allow it to happen after Randys UFC102 fight. Randy only has one fight left under contract, release him to prove a point against "Fag-dor", everyones favorite Russian duck. My opinion; Randy could do this at 46, Brock would destroy Gay-dor in a cage.

Dont ever compare why Chuck was given more chances than others, HE FOUGHT EVERYONE!!!! #1 contenders dont fight #2 contenders on the same card with the champ when they are waiting for a guarenteed shot. Oh wait, that is exactly what Chuck did with Tito fighting Scamrock.

TICE said...

That last anonymous doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. Arlovski was over ranked when he fought Fedor. I like AA but he hasn't been in his prime for a while. And if he argues Tim Sylvia wasn't in his prime, then thats proof that guy is a dumbass. Sylvia has losses to every big name like Mir, Arlovski, Fedor, Couture, and Nogeuira. Werdum said he should be ranked in the top ten. Thats bullshit. Should be in the top 20. He is right bout being in the top three at Strikeforce with Fedor and Overeem. Oh yeah and Dana didn't get rid of Wanderlei or Chuck because they dominated for years. Back to back losses is acceptable after becoming legends. Werdum has never dominated. Back to Fedor, AA could have beat him if he didn't get overzealous and try that flying knee. He was picking Fedor apart until he decided to be fucking Superman. There is no doubt Fedor is good and was great but he is over hyped now. I hope Brett Rogers beats him. Doubt it, but I hope for it cause it will shut up so many Fedor fans. And if he wins, it doesn't matter cause he will have just beat another fighter that doesn't mean jack shit to the rest of the world. One last thing. I hate Brock Lesnar but I know he would dominate Fedor. Brock just beat the best jui jitsu heavyweight on the ground. He is so strong he would eventually take Fedor down and destroy him. Fedor wants to be No. 1, he needs to go to UFC. Prove it.

JohnnyZ said...

nice!

Anonymous said...

Tice you can stop sucking Danas dick any day now. seriously you ufc anal fagg are the real reason the abortion is legal