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Thursday, September 10, 2009
UFC Pres Dana White Rails On Floyd Mayweather and Boxing
UFC president Dana White rails on Floyd Mayweather Jr. and boxing for their fear of mixed martial arts...
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HAHA fuck yeah! who wants to pay to see that shit? FUCK THAT PUTO!
Dana White is an IDIOT. Although Mayweather may be bumping his gums about this and that, and he may have an over-inflated ego, there are PLENTY of people who want to see this fight. Also, if you're going to go on a rant, make sure you have all of your information straight there jerky. His name is Juan Manuel Marquez and he's going to wipe the floor with Mayweather.
I lost interest years ago. Roy Jones loses to Tarver and relinquishes 8 belts. Look it up,I shit you not, 8 belts. This has become a farce a long time ago. Look up Joe Rogan vs boxing on Youtube, Rogan says it better than even Dana could.
You say Dana get your facts straight, him not having his names straight was kind of the point wasn't it DOUSCHEBAG.
For years boxing has tried to put down MMA. "MMA is a fad." "Since the fighters aren't in boxing they have no talent." "MMA is human-cockfighting." "MMA is deadly." "MMA is a spectator sport for white beer drinkers." I'm sick of hearing all that shit. Before now, Dana hasn't really attacked boxing like boxing has attacked MMA, and, whether or not what he said was true (I'm not a boxing fan so I don't know) I'm glad to see him finally firing back.
HA HA HA! Hey! I call people names on a message board! I'm cool! I love spelling too!
When Joe Rogan isn't hallucinating on psychodelics, I'll take his opinions seriously. Also, Dana White is terrible for the sport of MMA. He's a hypocrite. KIMBO isn't a true MMAist, but I'll put him on my reality show. All for the money baby!
Dana told everyone theres no way kimbo would get into the ufc without going through TUF , and he also said he wouldn't win it, by the sound of it, it looks like Dana was right, why let strikeforce make money off kimbo , people want to see kimbo ,that's what Dana gave them , unlike boxing , PAC man is the all boxing has , but all 166 boxing federations will never be able to make use of his true talent n marketability . Not like the ucf's makeeting machine , shit They almost sold it to me that bj Penn could beat gsp.
Is there a point to u posting matt thorne? Dana white isn't going lose sleep over what u precieve to be valid points.
Soon boxing will be a class u take, that is a part of mma training, and u won't be taking boxing class to actually box against floyd mayweather junior junior the 4th.
Oh is there a point to your HA HA HA ing all over this beeyatch
No one outside of the latino community cares about Mayweather Marquez. Fight the fight, then set up Mayweather v Pac. After that, boxing has no interesting fights left. NONE.
Joe Rogan can afford the best dope no doubt. Joe Rogan is also one of the most knowledgable, well spoken analysts in any sport. Anyone that can explain jits to a newcomer is brilliant.
Keep it coming Matt Thorne, I'm your hucleberry. Did you really just insult me for good spelling? Well your a gooder speller than me...HAHAHA
Hey Matt Thorne, are you really Jim Lampley in disguise? If you hate Dana White so much and based on your arguments, don't seem to care much for MMA in general and you're such a big boxing fan, then what the F@#K are you doing posting comments on an MMA website blog? Do us all a favor and get lost! You're not welcome here! If you haven't figured it out yet, it's about marketing, generating interest to the masses and building revenue for the still growing multi-million dollar business that is the UFC. Dana White is a promoter, first and foremost and the UFC is finally being recognized in the mainstream for the great combat sport that it is. It's his job to sell his product! I guess there will always be uneducated people such as yourself with a narrow view point that are easily swayed by some stubborn alligence to a dying sport. Don't hate, appreciate!
LoL. Matt Thorne, where you at? You sound like a fucking crackmonkey, averyone jumps on yer ass and you dissapear. Tell me, does it feel good to be verbally ass raped?
BTW what kind of loser talks shit about grammer on the net? seriously how retarded are you?
Wow, Dana's an even bigger idiot than I thought. The record for UFC attendance is somewhere around 20,000? More or less? Some non-title heavyweight boxing match in South Africa (I believe) had 60,000 in attendance. Oh ya, boxing is dead... What an idiot Dana is.
I was going to watch the Mayweather Marquez fight, but then I saw that there was a rerun of My Super Sweet 16 airing at the same time. My sweet 16 wins out in that match up. That's how bad boxing has become.
A sellout is a sell out. Not matter if it's a 20,000 hockey arena or football stadium. Either way it's a sell out, and impressive no mattern if it's boxing/mma/ or the fuken jonas brothers.
I'm from Edmonton , we can sell out our hockey rink for ufc no problem, but Montreal ?? Thoes mutha fackers could sell out Olympic stadium(around 65-70,000) no problems for ufc ,The issue is , does that really male sense? unless they have the cowboys giant score clock.
hey MATT THORNE...the ufc is mma but the fighters dont have to multiple disciplines. the UFC is a "mixed martial arts" event, pitting multiple fighting styles aginst one another. the first dozen or so events were dominated by just one particular style. nowadays the fighters have adapted and became well rounded in all aspects. you dont need 2 or 3 disciplines to be in the ufc...TRY AGAIN JOHNNY!
I gave up on boxing once I could watch MMA on cable tv. I would rather watch a school yard fight than a boxing match now. I don't think Mixed martial artists should be paid much more... I think boxers and all other pro athletes should be paid less. I think people are ridiculous to pay what they do to support these idiots who make more than doctors and judges, that act like monkies and end up squandering their wealth on a lavish lifestyle that fucking king tut himself could not maintain. ie. Mike Tyson... 600 million dollars blown! What would you do with 600 million. Even JohnnyZ could spend it more wisely. Dana White just isn't a very good speaker. Joe rogan needs to lay off the coke, and stop encouraging Dana to use it with him.
2ndcoming....boxers make so much because they have to take care of their 50 man entourage that enters the ring with them and pumps up their ego's before the fight. I'm suprised you didn't know that. That's why boxing is so awesome. That, and dads training other fighters to beat up their own son's.
"I gave up on boxing once I could watch MMA on cable tv. I would rather watch a school yard fight than a boxing match now." Guessing you weren't the world's biggest boxing fan before, then. "I don't think Mixed martial artists should be paid much more." Really? Despite the massive box office and PPV totals they bring in? Since they can only score one pay day every three to four months, these kids should be earning on a scale more appropraite to the revenues generated. Obviously I'm not talkin' about the top-tier guys, who do now seem to be fairly compensated; I'm talking about the curtain-jerkers making $5,000 a fight. ".. I think boxers and all other pro athletes should be paid less. I think people are ridiculous to pay what they do to support these idiots who make more than doctors and judges..." I agree that in general, pro athletes are paid too much, but I don't think doctors, judges or anyone should be making seven figures. "Dana White just isn't a very good speaker." Anyone that can talk people into putting their asses on the line to make him money is obviously a very good speaker. He just gets excited from time to time... :D "Joe rogan needs to lay off the coke," While he's far and away the best MMA analyst on television, and quite possibly the best colour man in sports period, Rogan is simply a dick. I'm not sure the coke makes a difference in that regard.
I was a big boxing fan years ago, but the confusion and politics from three different 'number one' promotions hurt the sport by diluting the waters... probably the main reason I always prefer to see the minnow MMA organizations die before they grow to rival the UFC.
Boxing likes to pass itself off as competition to UFC, but I think those days are gone. Fans have made their choice, and it's fairly obvious which sport is on the rise and which has grown stagnant.
five great fights? come on Dana your cards are becoming alot like boxing ppv's, The Marqeuz and mayweather fight is the the #2 pfp guy against the guy who was #1 up until a year ago, mayweather's last fight he knocked out Hatton in a very good fight, other then the Couture vs Nog fight which UFC has lived up to Dana's propaganda? all the fights on 100 were mismatches so dont give me that
Sorry I have been absent, but I do work for a living. I assume some of you sit somewhere, perhaps work, and hit the refresh button every few minutes to see who wrote what. I am truly sorry for you.
What is this, am I suddenly in the movie Tombstone? There's a code to this blog too? Jeez, too many rules...
Yes Mayweather is boring to watch, and yes there are elements within boxing that are afraid of MMA (though they shouldn't be).
Having said that, Dana white is an ignorant man. For one thing, Mayweather VS Marquez is a big fight. The second best p4p fighter will emerge from this fight, and will probably move on to challenge the top P4P fighter Pacquiao. I'm both a boxing and MMA fan, but I'm tuning into to the Mayweather fight instead. Not because the UFC card is bad, but because this is a big boxing fight.
Another thing, Dana goes on about using the cliche that boxing is a dying sport and so. The irony here is that as long as Dana White has a monopoly on the sport of MMA, it will NEVER over-take boxing as the premier combat sport!
I find it a little funny Dana calls the Mayweather fight the "fight nobody wants to see" while promoting a UFC headlined by Franklin vs. Belfort and Mirko vs. Dos Santos. I mean, all good fighters, but I don't remember anybody clamoring for these matchups.
However, the UFC has done a pretty good job putting together fights people want to see, so his point is made in my opinion.
Shocked and Awed... I was never a big boxing fan you are right. I agree with you also that the lower ranked guys should make a bit more, in fact that is what I meant. I should have made that clear. Over all I wouldn't disagree much with any of your rebuttal. I was looking for someone with a brain to respond to my comments. However cocaine is a problem for anyone. He is a good commentator don't get me wrong but Kenny Florian for example just sounds so much more reliable and just as confident and he uses nothing in order to achieve that. Even boxing uses commentators that have boxed professionally in their past and although many of them seem to have their heads stuck so far up their own asses, they aren't so obviously drug addicts as is Joe Rogan. One other thing... Dana White doesn't have to convince any of these guys to get in the cage. They want to do it. That is what I like about the UFC. Most of these fighters have no other skills. I do think that they should be compensated better though. The guys like Randy, GSP, Anderson, Lesnar are getting what they are worth. (In my opinion) Diesel... No UFC fighter will ever make what Oscar De La Hoya, Roy Jones, or Mike Tyson made. UFC fighters still have to pay trainers. Good fighters often have upwards of 5 trainers and gyms they have to pay. They get it done. That's all I am saying. Conversely, I don't think Dana White should be pocketing seven figures either. I am not a socialist but how much is enough? Spread the wealth!
as a fan of Boxing and Mixed Martial Arts, i believe that there shouldn't be any competition between these two sports, because there isn't any, boxing and MMA are two completely different sports. Its like comparing basketball and football, the only similarity is athletes and a fucking ball, other than that its different ball game (no pun intended). MMA and boxing are both contact sports but boxing should accept Mixed Martial Arts and vice versa... oh and Mixed Martial Arts isn't human cockfighting, its a fucking SPORT, there are athletic commissions, rules and regulations, referees, and etc. WORLD PEACE GUYS. hahaha..
Unfortunately Dana doesn't hold a monopoly over MMA. He would have to control every single MMA promotion in the world (which he doesn't). It's kind of like pro wrestling with the WWE being the UFC and TNA being Strikeforce. In all honesty though, is it really Dana's fault that promotions like Elite XC, IFL, Pride, and Afflictiion went under and the UFC benefitted from the losses from those promotions?
Dana White's one mouthy cock sucker. I wish the Fertittas would shut him the fuck up. I love both MMA and boxing, both are beautiful arts in its own ways.
Dana White huh? For a guy that bearly put up his own money to buy the UFC, he's got quite the mouth. He was lucky to have known the Fertittas and to be able to convinced Frank and Lorenzo to buy the UFC. Lets not forget that the Fertittas were the ones that was paying the UFC fighters out of their own pocket back when this sport was still new. All Dana White had to do was manage & be the face of the company and worked for his share of the company. Now that he's rich, he's become one of the most arrogant promoter I've ever seen. He knows no one will ever fuck with him as long as he's got Frank and Lorenzo Fertittas behind his back.
"Unfortunately Dana doesn't hold a monopoly over MMA. He would have to control every single MMA promotion in the world (which he doesn't). It's kind of like pro wrestling with the WWE being the UFC and TNA being Strikeforce. In all honesty though, is it really Dana's fault that promotions like Elite XC, IFL, Pride, and Afflictiion went under and the UFC benefitted from the losses from those promotions?"
Migg says: What do you mean "unfortunately"? Are you implying that you want to see this guy take full control over the sport?
Sure the organizations that you pointed out perhaps collapsed as a result of their own business practices. But that didn't stop Dana White from squeezing the life out of them every chance he got.
As long as the UFC has a choke hold on the sport of MMA, they will control fighter purses. And we all know their fighters are under paid. The sport is pretty popular right now. But if the fighters aren't being well compensated, the sport will eventually become stagnant and/or even lose fan interest once the posers are gone and real fighters look elsewhere for a better source of income....
That's why it's important for MMA to become a more open sport and rid itself of pro wrestling like organizations.
Where to begin on dis subject? Matt Thorne I'll be your Huckleberry. What makes you think old ass Marquez can "wipe the floor" with Pretty Boy? It's been over a year since he lost to Pacqu and he's just a warm up fo Pretty Boy to get ready for Pacqu. Now dis is a MMA site so I'll just stop. Diesel said it best "No one outside of the latino community cares…" witch is the one and only reason boxing will continue on.
Wit dat said Dana is droppin da ball when it comes to PPV vs. PPV. Even tho I like the UFC 103 card it contains no belt holders. Maybe that's also cause there ain't no 20 different belts fo each weight class. Shocked_n_Awed hit dis point wit "confusion and politics from three different 'number one' promotions hurt the sport by diluting the waters…" but the UFC 105 card sucks (same night as Pacqu fight).
For the exception of Dana handin the belt to Brock, MMA is not fixed and fighters get re-matches. Just ask Paul Malignaggi how he feels bout boxing being "full of shit" cause he knows he won't get a rematch wit Diaz.
You peeps forget, Dana is just a glorified promoter, just like Don King and it's his job to promote the sport any witch way possible to make $$$ for the Fertittas.
I hope someday boxing and MMA can just get along cause like pimpin if I got 1 hoe dat tricks but another hoe dat does different tricks put dem together and make even more $$$. "promotin ain't easy"
First, I think the person that left the UFC/WWE comparison wasn't advocating for the UFC to hold a monopoly over MMA (if my interpretation is correct). As far as MMA vs. Boxing goes, I definitely think that MMA is winning the "war" mostly in part because 1) they do listen to the fans (to an extent) with the prime example being the change from Franklin v. Henderson (which people were not interested in seeing) to the current main event Franklin v. Belfort at UFC 103 and 2) on any given card you get the opportunity to see multiple fights which in turn, provides the opportunity for fighters to become big name draws like GSP, Couture, Liddell, Griffin, etc. as opposed to boxing which has a limited supply of talent to draw from like Mayweather or Pacquiao. With regards to salaries, I'm pretty sure this is true for any "small sports" like MMA or boxing (compared to the NFL, NHL, etc.) with regards to the promoters controlling purses (NOT just the UFC) mostly in part because it seems like unionizing doesn't seem to work out to well and I highly doubt that the control over purses will change hands any time soon.
I love both MMA and Boxing. As I was once an amatuer boxer, and have trained in MMA(as a hobby) for the past 3 years. I love the UFC, I love that they put fights together that people actually want to see. I was a huge Roy Jones fan back in the day, and watched many a Holyfield, Tyson, Lewis, DelaHoya fights. I also watched Delahoya and Mayweather fight, was pretty good but, a little boring. I truly believe that a FANTASTIC BOXER, I mean WORL CLASS..would dominate the UFC. I know I know, I can hear the gasps..but, I believe it. However, I don't think we'll ever get to see one compete because they can still make too much money boxing. That being said... would pay a pretty penny to watch Mayweather fight Faber??? I would pay a pretty penny for that one.
I would be amazed if Mayweather could actually back up his trash talk and fight someone from the MMA world.
"As long as the UFC has a choke hold on the sport of MMA, they will control fighter purses. And we all know their fighters are under paid. The sport is pretty popular right now. But if the fighters aren't being well compensated, the sport will eventually become stagnant and/or even lose fan interest once the posers are gone and real fighters look elsewhere for a better source of income...."
"With regards to salaries, I'm pretty sure this is true for any "small sports" like MMA or boxing (compared to the NFL, NHL, etc.) with regards to the promoters controlling purses (NOT just the UFC) mostly in part because it seems like unionizing doesn't seem to work out to well and I highly doubt that the control over purses will change hands any time soon."
Granted the pay scale could be cause for concern, remember that the fighters do obtain money by other means like sponsorships or writing a book for instance. As far as the "real fighters" leaving for other projects, they can still work on those projects while continuing a career in fighting. Some examples would include the multiple guest appearances fighters have had on shows (Chuck Liddell on Entourage or Forrest Griffin on Law & Order: SVU) or even movies (Randy Couture with The Scorpion King 2 or The Expendables or Rich Franklin with Cyborg Warrior). The UFC having a "chokehold" on MMA is no different than the NFL, NHL, MLB, and NBA have with their respective sports. Case in point, the Arena Football League is no longer in existence with the NFL being a contributiing factor (among other things). The only difference between the "big leagues" and MMA is that the subsidies that made up leagues (NFL and AFL making up today's NFL) and (NHL and WHL(?) making up today's NHL). What happened with those sports is no different than what happened with the UFC obtaining notable talent from promotions no longer in existence or going off of the pro wrestling comparison from an earlier post, WWE buying the promotions from the various territories back in the day to create what it is today. If the person that left the "UFC has a choke hold on MMA" comment wants to respond to this, I welcome you to do so.
The only reason this continually comes up is because, as dana said, the boxers (floyd mayweather) keep trying to talk shit about MMA. The MMA world has nothing but love for the sport of boxing. Its an integral part of every training regime. And last time floyd fought, my friends and I paid for that stupid fight card. We watched it after the UFC that night and it was the most boring thing we'd ever watched. And we all love boxing. Its true, boxers don't fight like they used to. I just watched a Sunny Liston fight the other night on ESPN Classics and it was amazing. No dancing involved. Dana White? Salud.
boxer and promoter can pick and choose the fighter that why number 1 will never pick the best fighter. now ufc mr silva pick and choose what fighter fight who
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Dana's right you guys who are paying for 1 fight are getting ripped off. and as far as the Kimbo comments. How can you call Dana a hypocrite when he did what he said he would. He said Kimbo would have to prove himself and he's making him do it. Don't get me wrong I love Boxing but I'm sick and tied of waiting for a big fight to come around and then when they do it's a HUGE snore fest. The UFC gives you the fights you want AND their exciting
Not even gonna bring up boxing cause no matter what is said it is a dying sport. I don't know why people have such a problem with Dana White. Yeah he can be a dick but thats what needs to happen when you run a multimillion dollar company. Who cares it wasn't his money that was the big investment into it? Fertittas had the money and knew Dana could run it. Which by the way, he has done very well. If it wasn't for Dana, UFC wouldn't be where it is which means MMA wouldn't be where it is today. Someone was talking bout how UFC doesn't have that great of fights? I will say 100 wasn't what the hype was but there have been plenty of great fights this year. Wanderlei Vs Franklin, Guida Vs Sanchez, Couture Vs Nogeuira, Hendo Vs Franklin, BJ Vs Florian. Didn't even bring up great knockouts or submissions. And its good UFC is as big as it is. These smaller organizations only bring up one big superstar every know and then. Mousasi seems phenominal winning Dream's Middleweight Grand Prix then Strikeforce's Light heavy Title. Wouldn't people want to see him fight Anderson Silva or Machida for a title? It seems inevitable that Fedor will win Strikeforce's Heavyweight Title. That would just add to his collection of WAMMA and Pride Titles. An undisputed unification title fight would be legendary. Where would that happen? The biggest organization would or should have those fights. MMA needs UFC, Dana seems pretty cool, boxing is dead, and Joe Rogan smokes weed not coke you fucking morons.
If affliction put out the exact same card as ufc 103 DANA would be telling us how there just a bunch of washed up guy's would couldn't make it to the top or were no longer at the top, Belfort, trigg and Crocop were not even in the ufc a year ago, no one else is a top guy anymore, (does anyone see Rich holding a belt anymore) dana is liveing in a glass house when he bad mouths the JMM and Floyd fight, that fight is between the no2 and 3 guys in the sport, a fight the UFC has never made happen and the winner will fight PAC man, boxing is giving us a fight we want to see, the UFC isnt that night
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HAHA fuck yeah! who wants to pay to see that shit? FUCK THAT PUTO!
Man, that Dana's good.
Dana White is an IDIOT. Although Mayweather may be bumping his gums about this and that, and he may have an over-inflated ego, there are PLENTY of people who want to see this fight. Also, if you're going to go on a rant, make sure you have all of your information straight there jerky. His name is Juan Manuel Marquez and he's going to wipe the floor with Mayweather.
Dana shut your face.
took the words right out my mouth
I lost interest years ago. Roy Jones loses to Tarver and relinquishes 8 belts. Look it up,I shit you not, 8 belts. This has become a farce a long time ago. Look up Joe Rogan vs boxing on Youtube, Rogan says it better than even Dana could.
You say Dana get your facts straight, him not having his names straight was kind of the point wasn't it DOUSCHEBAG.
For years boxing has tried to put down MMA. "MMA is a fad." "Since the fighters aren't in boxing they have no talent." "MMA is human-cockfighting." "MMA is deadly." "MMA is a spectator sport for white beer drinkers." I'm sick of hearing all that shit. Before now, Dana hasn't really attacked boxing like boxing has attacked MMA, and, whether or not what he said was true (I'm not a boxing fan so I don't know) I'm glad to see him finally firing back.
HA HA HA! Hey! I call people names on a message board! I'm cool! I love spelling too!
When Joe Rogan isn't hallucinating on psychodelics, I'll take his opinions seriously. Also, Dana White is terrible for the sport of MMA. He's a hypocrite. KIMBO isn't a true MMAist, but I'll put him on my reality show. All for the money baby!
Please...try again Johnny.
Dana told everyone theres no way kimbo would get into the ufc without going through TUF , and he also said he wouldn't win it, by the sound of it, it looks like Dana was right, why let strikeforce make money off kimbo , people want to see kimbo ,that's what Dana gave them , unlike boxing , PAC man is the all boxing has , but all 166 boxing federations will never be able to make use of his true talent n marketability . Not like the ucf's makeeting machine , shit They almost sold it to me that bj Penn could beat gsp.
Is there a point amongs all of those commas?
Is there a point to u posting matt thorne? Dana white isn't going lose sleep over what u precieve to be valid points.
Soon boxing will be a class u take, that is a part of mma training, and u won't be taking boxing class to actually box against floyd mayweather junior junior the 4th.
Oh is there a point to your HA HA HA ing all over this beeyatch
Hey Matt go shut Dana up yourself!
Oh wait you can't, STFU you noodle armed sunken chest gimp.
Matthew Thorne , you are in viloation #692.
Pointing out grammer mistakes while making your own.
See - reference 124 "Please...try again Johnny.".
Please try and use Only one period , not three.
No one outside of the latino community cares about Mayweather Marquez. Fight the fight, then set up Mayweather v Pac. After that, boxing has no interesting fights left. NONE.
Joe Rogan can afford the best dope no doubt. Joe Rogan is also one of the most knowledgable, well spoken analysts in any sport. Anyone that can explain jits to a newcomer is brilliant.
Keep it coming Matt Thorne, I'm your hucleberry. Did you really just insult me for good spelling? Well your a gooder speller than me...HAHAHA
I meant to spell that "Huckleberry".
See you are gooder than me Matt Thorne... ... ... HAHAHA
Hey Matt Thorne, are you really Jim Lampley in disguise? If you hate Dana White so much and based on your arguments, don't seem to care much for MMA in general and you're such a big boxing fan, then what the F@#K are you doing posting comments on an MMA website blog? Do us all a favor and get lost! You're not welcome here! If you haven't figured it out yet, it's about marketing, generating interest to the masses and building revenue for the still growing multi-million dollar business that is the UFC. Dana White is a promoter, first and foremost and the UFC is finally being recognized in the mainstream for the great combat sport that it is. It's his job to sell his product! I guess there will always be uneducated people such as yourself with a narrow view point that are easily swayed by some stubborn alligence to a dying sport. Don't hate, appreciate!
Please stop pwning Matt Thorne.
He's had enough. Leave him alone , clearly he has a man crush on , wait a minute ? Who's fighting floyd again?
LoL. Matt Thorne, where you at? You sound like a fucking crackmonkey, averyone jumps on yer ass and you dissapear. Tell me, does it feel good to be verbally ass raped?
BTW what kind of loser talks shit about grammer on the net? seriously how retarded are you?
Wow, Dana's an even bigger idiot than I thought.
The record for UFC attendance is somewhere around 20,000? More or less? Some non-title heavyweight boxing match in South Africa (I believe) had 60,000 in attendance. Oh ya, boxing is dead...
What an idiot Dana is.
I'm watching the boxing that night....fuck who am I kidding I'll end up paying for both and take in that ass from both sides
I was going to watch the Mayweather Marquez fight, but then I saw that there was a rerun of My Super Sweet 16 airing at the same time. My sweet 16 wins out in that match up. That's how bad boxing has become.
A sellout is a sell out. Not matter if it's a 20,000 hockey arena or football stadium. Either way it's a sell out, and impressive no mattern if it's boxing/mma/ or the fuken jonas brothers.
I'm from Edmonton , we can sell out our hockey rink for ufc no problem, but Montreal ?? Thoes mutha fackers could sell out Olympic stadium(around 65-70,000) no problems for ufc ,The issue is , does that really male sense? unless they have the cowboys giant score clock.
hey MATT THORNE...the ufc is mma but the fighters dont have to multiple disciplines. the UFC is a "mixed martial arts" event, pitting multiple fighting styles aginst one another. the first dozen or so events were dominated by just one particular style. nowadays the fighters have adapted and became well rounded in all aspects. you dont need 2 or 3 disciplines to be in the ufc...TRY AGAIN JOHNNY!
How many seasons did "the contender" last ?
How many seasons are we into "the ultimate fighter"??
Stallone !!!!!!!
I gave up on boxing once I could watch MMA on cable tv. I would rather watch a school yard fight than a boxing match now. I don't think Mixed martial artists should be paid much more... I think boxers and all other pro athletes should be paid less. I think people are ridiculous to pay what they do to support these idiots who make more than doctors and judges, that act like monkies and end up squandering their wealth on a lavish lifestyle that fucking king tut himself could not maintain. ie. Mike Tyson... 600 million dollars blown! What would you do with 600 million. Even JohnnyZ could spend it more wisely. Dana White just isn't a very good speaker. Joe rogan needs to lay off the coke, and stop encouraging Dana to use it with him.
Come on... I don't have much time... Where is the rebuttal? Someone has got to disagree.
2ndcoming....boxers make so much because they have to take care of their 50 man entourage that enters the ring with them and pumps up their ego's before the fight. I'm suprised you didn't know that. That's why boxing is so awesome. That, and dads training other fighters to beat up their own son's.
2nd Coming: The rebuttal you were looking for...
"I gave up on boxing once I could watch MMA on cable tv. I would rather watch a school yard fight than a boxing match now."
Guessing you weren't the world's biggest boxing fan before, then.
"I don't think Mixed martial artists should be paid much more."
Really? Despite the massive box office and PPV totals they bring in? Since they can only score one pay day every three to four months, these kids should be earning on a scale more appropraite to the revenues generated. Obviously I'm not talkin' about the top-tier guys, who do now seem to be fairly compensated; I'm talking about the curtain-jerkers making $5,000 a fight.
".. I think boxers and all other pro athletes should be paid less. I think people are ridiculous to pay what they do to support these idiots who make more than doctors and judges..."
I agree that in general, pro athletes are paid too much, but I don't think doctors, judges or anyone should be making seven figures.
"Dana White just isn't a very good speaker."
Anyone that can talk people into putting their asses on the line to make him money is obviously a very good speaker. He just gets excited from time to time... :D
"Joe rogan needs to lay off the coke,"
While he's far and away the best MMA analyst on television, and quite possibly the best colour man in sports period, Rogan is simply a dick. I'm not sure the coke makes a difference in that regard.
I was a big boxing fan years ago, but the confusion and politics from three different 'number one' promotions hurt the sport by diluting the waters... probably the main reason I always prefer to see the minnow MMA organizations die before they grow to rival the UFC.
Boxing likes to pass itself off as competition to UFC, but I think those days are gone. Fans have made their choice, and it's fairly obvious which sport is on the rise and which has grown stagnant.
five great fights? come on Dana your cards are becoming alot like boxing ppv's, The Marqeuz and mayweather fight is the the #2 pfp guy against the guy who was #1 up until a year ago, mayweather's last fight he knocked out Hatton in a very good fight, other then the Couture vs Nog fight which UFC has lived up to Dana's propaganda? all the fights on 100 were mismatches so dont give me that
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Sorry I have been absent, but I do work for a living. I assume some of you sit somewhere, perhaps work, and hit the refresh button every few minutes to see who wrote what. I am truly sorry for you.
What is this, am I suddenly in the movie Tombstone? There's a code to this blog too? Jeez, too many rules...
Migg says:
Yes Mayweather is boring to watch, and yes there are elements within boxing that are afraid of MMA (though they shouldn't be).
Having said that, Dana white is an ignorant man. For one thing, Mayweather VS Marquez is a big fight. The second best p4p fighter will emerge from this fight, and will probably move on to challenge the top P4P fighter Pacquiao. I'm both a boxing and MMA fan, but I'm tuning into to the Mayweather fight instead. Not because the UFC card is bad, but because this is a big boxing fight.
Another thing, Dana goes on about using the cliche that boxing is a dying sport and so. The irony here is that as long as Dana White has a monopoly on the sport of MMA, it will NEVER over-take boxing as the premier combat sport!
I find it a little funny Dana calls the Mayweather fight the "fight nobody wants to see" while promoting a UFC headlined by Franklin vs. Belfort and Mirko vs. Dos Santos. I mean, all good fighters, but I don't remember anybody clamoring for these matchups.
However, the UFC has done a pretty good job putting together fights people want to see, so his point is made in my opinion.
Shocked and Awed... I was never a big boxing fan you are right. I agree with you also that the lower ranked guys should make a bit more, in fact that is what I meant. I should have made that clear. Over all I wouldn't disagree much with any of your rebuttal. I was looking for someone with a brain to respond to my comments. However cocaine is a problem for anyone. He is a good commentator don't get me wrong but Kenny Florian for example just sounds so much more reliable and just as confident and he uses nothing in order to achieve that. Even boxing uses commentators that have boxed professionally in their past and although many of them seem to have their heads stuck so far up their own asses, they aren't so obviously drug addicts as is Joe Rogan.
One other thing... Dana White doesn't have to convince any of these guys to get in the cage. They want to do it. That is what I like about the UFC. Most of these fighters have no other skills. I do think that they should be compensated better though. The guys like Randy, GSP, Anderson, Lesnar are getting what they are worth. (In my opinion)
Diesel... No UFC fighter will ever make what Oscar De La Hoya, Roy Jones, or Mike Tyson made. UFC fighters still have to pay trainers. Good fighters often have upwards of 5 trainers and gyms they have to pay. They get it done. That's all I am saying.
Conversely, I don't think Dana White should be pocketing seven figures either. I am not a socialist but how much is enough?
Spread the wealth!
as a fan of Boxing and Mixed Martial Arts, i believe that there shouldn't be any competition between these two sports, because there isn't any, boxing and MMA are two completely different sports. Its like comparing basketball and football, the only similarity is athletes and a fucking ball, other than that its different ball game (no pun intended). MMA and boxing are both contact sports but boxing should accept Mixed Martial Arts and vice versa... oh and Mixed Martial Arts isn't human cockfighting, its a fucking SPORT, there are athletic commissions, rules and regulations, referees, and etc. WORLD PEACE GUYS. hahaha..
Unfortunately Dana doesn't hold a monopoly over MMA. He would have to control every single MMA promotion in the world (which he doesn't). It's kind of like pro wrestling with the WWE being the UFC and TNA being Strikeforce. In all honesty though, is it really Dana's fault that promotions like Elite XC, IFL, Pride, and Afflictiion went under and the UFC benefitted from the losses from those promotions?
Dana White's one mouthy cock sucker. I wish the Fertittas would shut him the fuck up.
I love both MMA and boxing, both are beautiful arts in its own ways.
Dana White huh?
For a guy that bearly put up his own money to buy the UFC, he's got quite the mouth. He was lucky to have known the Fertittas and to be able to convinced Frank and Lorenzo to buy the UFC. Lets not forget that the Fertittas were the ones that was paying the UFC fighters out of their own pocket back when this sport was still new. All Dana White had to do was manage & be the face of the company and worked for his share of the company. Now that he's rich, he's become one of the most arrogant promoter I've ever seen. He knows no one will ever fuck with him as long as he's got Frank and Lorenzo Fertittas behind his back.
"Unfortunately Dana doesn't hold a monopoly over MMA. He would have to control every single MMA promotion in the world (which he doesn't). It's kind of like pro wrestling with the WWE being the UFC and TNA being Strikeforce. In all honesty though, is it really Dana's fault that promotions like Elite XC, IFL, Pride, and Afflictiion went under and the UFC benefitted from the losses from those promotions?"
Migg says:
What do you mean "unfortunately"?
Are you implying that you want to see this guy take full control over the sport?
Sure the organizations that you pointed out perhaps collapsed as a result of their own business practices. But that didn't stop Dana White from squeezing the life out of them every chance he got.
As long as the UFC has a choke hold on the sport of MMA, they will control fighter purses.
And we all know their fighters are under paid. The sport is pretty popular right now. But if the fighters aren't being well compensated, the sport will eventually become stagnant and/or even lose fan interest once the posers are gone and real fighters look elsewhere for a better source of income....
That's why it's important for MMA to become a more open sport and rid itself of pro wrestling like organizations.
ok, I admit , pointing out grammer mistakes was stupid & I got pwned.
Where to begin on dis subject? Matt Thorne I'll be your Huckleberry. What makes you think old ass Marquez can "wipe the floor" with Pretty Boy? It's been over a year since he lost to Pacqu and he's just a warm up fo Pretty Boy to get ready for Pacqu. Now dis is a MMA site so I'll just stop. Diesel said it best "No one outside of the latino community cares…" witch is the one and only reason boxing will continue on.
Wit dat said Dana is droppin da ball when it comes to PPV vs. PPV. Even tho I like the UFC 103 card it contains no belt holders. Maybe that's also cause there ain't no 20 different belts fo each weight class. Shocked_n_Awed hit dis point wit "confusion and politics from three different 'number one' promotions hurt the sport by diluting the waters…"
but the UFC 105 card sucks (same night as Pacqu fight).
For the exception of Dana handin the belt to Brock, MMA is not fixed and fighters get re-matches. Just ask Paul Malignaggi how he feels bout boxing being "full of shit" cause he knows he won't get a rematch wit Diaz.
You peeps forget, Dana is just a glorified promoter, just like Don King and it's his job to promote the sport any witch way possible to make $$$ for the Fertittas.
I hope someday boxing and MMA can just get along cause like pimpin if I got 1 hoe dat tricks but another hoe dat does different tricks put dem together and make even more $$$.
"promotin ain't easy"
FYI..."..." is a valid use of periods. The "..." is a long pause, usually following sarcastic comments.
First, I think the person that left the UFC/WWE comparison wasn't advocating for the UFC to hold a monopoly over MMA (if my interpretation is correct). As far as MMA vs. Boxing goes, I definitely think that MMA is winning the "war" mostly in part because 1) they do listen to the fans (to an extent) with the prime example being the change from Franklin v. Henderson (which people were not interested in seeing) to the current main event Franklin v. Belfort at UFC 103 and 2) on any given card you get the opportunity to see multiple fights which in turn, provides the opportunity for fighters to become big name draws like GSP, Couture, Liddell, Griffin, etc. as opposed to boxing which has a limited supply of talent to draw from like Mayweather or Pacquiao. With regards to salaries, I'm pretty sure this is true for any "small sports" like MMA or boxing (compared to the NFL, NHL, etc.) with regards to the promoters controlling purses (NOT just the UFC) mostly in part because it seems like unionizing doesn't seem to work out to well and I highly doubt that the control over purses will change hands any time soon.
I love both MMA and Boxing. As I was once an amatuer boxer, and have trained in MMA(as a hobby) for the past 3 years. I love the UFC, I love that they put fights together that people actually want to see. I was a huge Roy Jones fan back in the day, and watched many a Holyfield, Tyson, Lewis, DelaHoya fights. I also watched Delahoya and Mayweather fight, was pretty good but, a little boring. I truly believe that a FANTASTIC BOXER, I mean WORL CLASS..would dominate the UFC. I know I know, I can hear the gasps..but, I believe it. However, I don't think we'll ever get to see one compete because they can still make too much money boxing. That being said... would pay a pretty penny to watch Mayweather fight Faber??? I would pay a pretty penny for that one.
I would be amazed if Mayweather could actually back up his trash talk and fight someone from the MMA world.
"As long as the UFC has a choke hold on the sport of MMA, they will control fighter purses.
And we all know their fighters are under paid. The sport is pretty popular right now. But if the fighters aren't being well compensated, the sport will eventually become stagnant and/or even lose fan interest once the posers are gone and real fighters look elsewhere for a better source of income...."
"With regards to salaries, I'm pretty sure this is true for any "small sports" like MMA or boxing (compared to the NFL, NHL, etc.) with regards to the promoters controlling purses (NOT just the UFC) mostly in part because it seems like unionizing doesn't seem to work out to well and I highly doubt that the control over purses will change hands any time soon."
Granted the pay scale could be cause for concern, remember that the fighters do obtain money by other means like sponsorships or writing a book for instance. As far as the "real fighters" leaving for other projects, they can still work on those projects while continuing a career in fighting. Some examples would include the multiple guest appearances fighters have had on shows (Chuck Liddell on Entourage or Forrest Griffin on Law & Order: SVU) or even movies (Randy Couture with The Scorpion King 2 or The Expendables or Rich Franklin with Cyborg Warrior). The UFC having a "chokehold" on MMA is no different than the NFL, NHL, MLB, and NBA have with their respective sports. Case in point, the Arena Football League is no longer in existence with the NFL being a contributiing factor (among other things). The only difference between the "big leagues" and MMA is that the subsidies that made up leagues (NFL and AFL making up today's NFL) and (NHL and WHL(?) making up today's NHL). What happened with those sports is no different than what happened with the UFC obtaining notable talent from promotions no longer in existence or going off of the pro wrestling comparison from an earlier post, WWE buying the promotions from the various territories back in the day to create what it is today. If the person that left the "UFC has a choke hold on MMA" comment wants to respond to this, I welcome you to do so.
The only reason this continually comes up is because, as dana said, the boxers (floyd mayweather) keep trying to talk shit about MMA. The MMA world has nothing but love for the sport of boxing. Its an integral part of every training regime. And last time floyd fought, my friends and I paid for that stupid fight card. We watched it after the UFC that night and it was the most boring thing we'd ever watched. And we all love boxing. Its true, boxers don't fight like they used to. I just watched a Sunny Liston fight the other night on ESPN Classics and it was amazing. No dancing involved. Dana White? Salud.
manny pacquio is the only reason to watch boxing. after he retires that will put the last nail in boxings coffin.
boxer and promoter can pick and choose the fighter that why number 1 will never pick the best fighter. now ufc mr silva pick and choose what fighter fight who
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An ellipsis is a series of three points with spaces between them (. . .) inserted into a quotation to indicate the omission of material from the original quotation. There are quite a few simple rules for the proper use of ellipses, which are used more often in legal writing than most forms of writing, since lawyers often (generally too often) quote material from other sources. Failure to use the proper form of an ellipsis could misrepresent the work of another person and result in legal liability for the writer. Correct use of ellipses, on the other hand, shows that the writer has carefully attended to detail, and thus increases the reader's confidence in the reliability of the written work. An ellipsis can also be used to indicate a pause in speech, an unfinished thought, or, at the end of a sentence, a trailing off into silence (aposiopesis).
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Dana's right you guys who are paying for 1 fight are getting ripped off.
and as far as the Kimbo comments. How can you call Dana a hypocrite when he did what he said he would. He said Kimbo would have to prove himself and he's making him do it. Don't get me wrong I love Boxing but I'm sick and tied of waiting for a big fight to come around and then when they do it's a HUGE snore fest. The UFC gives you the fights you want AND their exciting
Not even gonna bring up boxing cause no matter what is said it is a dying sport. I don't know why people have such a problem with Dana White. Yeah he can be a dick but thats what needs to happen when you run a multimillion dollar company. Who cares it wasn't his money that was the big investment into it? Fertittas had the money and knew Dana could run it. Which by the way, he has done very well. If it wasn't for Dana, UFC wouldn't be where it is which means MMA wouldn't be where it is today. Someone was talking bout how UFC doesn't have that great of fights? I will say 100 wasn't what the hype was but there have been plenty of great fights this year. Wanderlei Vs Franklin, Guida Vs Sanchez, Couture Vs Nogeuira, Hendo Vs Franklin, BJ Vs Florian. Didn't even bring up great knockouts or submissions. And its good UFC is as big as it is. These smaller organizations only bring up one big superstar every know and then. Mousasi seems phenominal winning Dream's Middleweight Grand Prix then Strikeforce's Light heavy Title. Wouldn't people want to see him fight Anderson Silva or Machida for a title? It seems inevitable that Fedor will win Strikeforce's Heavyweight Title. That would just add to his collection of WAMMA and Pride Titles. An undisputed unification title fight would be legendary. Where would that happen? The biggest organization would or should have those fights. MMA needs UFC, Dana seems pretty cool, boxing is dead, and Joe Rogan smokes weed not coke you fucking morons.
boxing sucks...mma is here 2 stay...enough said
If affliction put out the exact same card as ufc 103 DANA would be telling us how there just a bunch of washed up guy's would couldn't make it to the top or were no longer at the top, Belfort, trigg and Crocop were not even in the ufc a year ago, no one else is a top guy anymore, (does anyone see Rich holding a belt anymore) dana is liveing in a glass house when he bad mouths the JMM and Floyd fight, that fight is between the no2 and 3 guys in the sport, a fight the UFC has never made happen and the winner will fight PAC man, boxing is giving us a fight we want to see, the UFC isnt that night
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