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Thursday, October 15, 2009
Shane Carwin Addresses Brock Lesnar's Post Fight Antics
Inside MMA's Ron Kruck interviews UFC heavyweight title challenger Shane Carwin, focusing on champion Brock Lesnar's antics in the Octagon after he defeated Frank Mir to unify the belt.
(Courtesy of HDNet. Inside MMA airs Fridays at 9 p.m. ET on HDNet.)
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28 comments:
I pray to god that Carwin beats Lesnar's ass...
DUDE GET OVER IT ALREADY, JESUS, BROCK WILL STILL BE BETTER THAN CARWIN ON BROCKS WORST DAY, HES DOING EXACTLY WHAT FRANK MIR WAS DOING AND ITS HAPPENING ALL OVER AGAIN, BROCKS GONNA SMASH AND SHUT HIM UP JUST LIKE HE DID MIR
You should get a new keyboard... it appears your CAPS lock is broken....
everyone forgot real fast all the shit Mir talked before the fight ,no Brock shouldn't have acted like a jackass but he just finished what Mir started remember Mir saying he would beat Brock 99 out of 100 fights I wonder if he feels the same now.Carwin better be ready or his face is going to look like Mir's did after Brock gets finish with him.
People tend to forget that Brock shows respect to those who show it back. Out of Herring, Couture and Mir, only Couture didn't trash talk, he only spoke on the fight and what he'd try to do to win.
Lesnar? He talked about his opportunity, he spoke how he RESPECTED Couture before and after the fight.
Lesson to be learned here, you don't talk crap you can't back up and Mir had it coming to him in spades and I'm so thankful that Mir didn't win or else we'd be forced to see his next match in an airport hangar since that's the only place big enough to hold that idiots ego.
you all need to get off of Cock Lensar's dick..........learn MMA before you talk bout it.....after the way he talked after UFC 100 set MMA back about twenty steps....thanks Brock....also did you listen to Mir at all after the fight.......
LoL, Carwin is nowhere near Lesnar's league! Carwin is going to get beat easily. And after all the crap that Mir talked, and then couldn't do anything to back it up, that is pretty sad. Atleast Lesnar can back everything up. Its pretty funny how they say Carwin is just as good as a wrestler as Lesnar LOL! He was division II and Lesnar was division I champ! They have division II for losers who can't make it in division I!
To the 'Anonymous' a couple posts back - I think you perhaps need to learn a little about MMA, particularly the business side, if you're going to understand why Lesner was even brought into the UFC, and why his post-match antics following crushing Mir were just what Dana et al were looking for.
It's the same reason Kimbo will get a contract following this season's TUF. Bums in seats, and PPV buys are all that matters - impressing old-school MMA fans with solid fights doesn't bring in the massive cash established characters deliver, regardless of ability.
Brock's used to performing in a ring, in front of massive crowds, obviously from his WWF days. Far from it being a surprise when he reverts to that character, it should be expected. It got people talking; some loved it because it reminded them of Brock when he was in position to rule wrestling for the next 20 years. A lot hated it for exactly the same reason!
But to say it sets MMA back at all is simply wrong. Brock and Kimbo bring a mainstream audience with them that, despite all his skill, someone like Big Nog (for example), simply can't offer. The mainstream audience translates into more revenue, but just as importantly from the sporting perspective, mainstream acceptance - more media exposure, and an easier time passing through legislature than in the past.
On a side note, Mir's comments after the fight aren't worth anything as evidence to Mir's character, because he got demolished. Had the result been the other way 'round, while I doubt Mir would have handled the mike the way Lesnar did with Rogan (because he doesn't have the ad lib talent Lesnar does), I'm sure he would have been as brash, arrogant and unlikeable as ever.
After UFC 100, I decided I would not get another Brock fight, but the chance that Carwin might knock Lesnar out is way too tempting. I hate Brock so much and it sucks cause he is good. His wrestling is better but his striking is no where near Carwins. If Shane can keep his distance and pick at him, he will win, but if Lesnar gets a hold of him, we are going to see the same thing we saw when he fought Mir. A bruised and battered face.
I agree with the guy who said Brock set MMA back. He has too much WWE bullshit theatrics. When he beat Herring he did that stupid lasso stunt. Then flipping the crowd off after beating Mir. He needs to stop highlighting his hair and learn some sportsmanship. I hope we see Carwin knock him out like he did Christian Wellisch.
This is what happens when you read the comments, and respond to a comment, before you watch the video...
Carwin just blew my mind... one second, he claims Brock's antics could/did push MMA away from the mainstream, because it was disrespectful; then, in the next breath, says he wants people to look at MMA like the NFL?!?!
The stabbing, shooting, drug-abusing, dog-fighting, more-stories-on-the-news-pages-than-sports-pages NFL?!? Where the 'disrespectful' antics of players like Terrell Owens were all the mainstream media cared about reporting Sunday to Sunday?
Wow. Carwin's not very bright, is he?
Yeah, I don't agree with Shocked's views on the NFL or anything else. NFL is played by some thugs, but you get that with any sport though. Dana is trying to get away from that stereotype that MMA is cavemen and human cock fighting. Kimbo won't have a UFC contract for long (if he does get one) if he keeps fighting the way he has the past few years. Dana did bring Lesnar in to bring in viewers but the antics at 100 wasn't what he was looking for. Flipping off the Las Vegas crowd when you work for a Las Vegas based company is a real dumb idea. Bad mouthing the main sponsor is really bad for business. Getting in the face of a hurt opponent after the fight was over is flat out shitty. Expect to hear booes in Vegas when Lesnar comes out to fight Carwin. It might put people in seats but after awhile people will quit watching him and there will be no reason to keep him when ticket sales drop.
Hey dumbass, when Carwin said he wanted mma like the NFL, he didn't say he wanted the fighters to act like the assholes in the NFL. He wantss the sport to be as big as the NFL as far as the fans, the media coverage, and those types of things. I really don't think anyone wants to hear aabout the NFL or NBA convits, or the MLB steroid users anymore. It is nice to see a sport where people have respect for one another even though they want to destroy them at the same time. That being said, I don't think Brock really realized the reaction he was going to get from his antics. I am a Brock hater(only because he is so damn big and strong and I don't really like his style of fighting), but I think He realized what he did and I think he will be different in that perspective. He is amazingly gifted and it is hard to see him losing soon.
I love Brock, i think he has very good talent, obviously he is beatable as we saw previously of course him still being young to the sport, with that said we can only expect him to grow.
about his behavior, yeah it sucks, that behavior was pretty bad, ppl booed him because he grounded and punded mir, as soon as he took it to the ground ppl started chanting to stand them up which is completley retarded because the fight before of gsp and alves, the whole match was practically in the ground.
Mir talked so much crap and its as it was said before, brock will talk smack if you do so too, its just as simple as that, Corture didnt, so he didnt, "oh how about the sportsmanship that mir did and his comments after the fight, oh oh he wasnt a jerk" well hell after he was such an ass before the fight and lost miserably what would he gain from talking any more crap? he saw that brock already made a fool out of himself, so he was smart about it, he ate his damn words.
Carwin is starting to talk all kinds of crap already and you best belief Brock is going to also.
I think Brock is a fantastic fighter and Schocked put it as simple as it is, he brings in the cash and before you consider UFC a sport, know that it a business first.
Im a for Brock i think he will overcome Carwin, i think its gonna go to the ground. Carwin was getting manhandled by Gonzaga in the ground, carwin couldnt do crap, grant it gonzaga couldnt keep him there and ended up biting what i call the "Cluba" punch, but we saw carwins weakness.
with that, cant wait for machida to destory shogun!
Shocked_n_Awed.....you are the one who isn't so bright. He said "as big as" the NFL.
All you are missign the point. Lesnar didnt join the UFC to be BBQ buddies on sundays. Its a job that pays him to perform and if you watched the first all access on him, he said he doesnt live the life he once did with the WWF/WWE.
Mir on the other hand is an egotistical maniac who talked alot of crap after his first win against lesnar. lets not forget that he was getting his ass handed to him until the one punch to the head stood them up. Than he countined Than once again Mir opens his big mouth and Lesnar shuts it this time. who care about the antics and his after fight behavior, he just showed millions of people he is legit.
The laso thing was in responce to Heath hearring talking crap before their fight.
Shane, yea he big strong and so is lesnar. I think it will be a good fight, obviously shane knows where he doesnt want to end up and that looking like Mir, but at the same time if will need to push the pace if he wants that belt from around lesnar waist.
Anonymous number whatever - Play semantics all you like (some antics? I'm always up for some antics!); pretty obvious he's just contradicting himself.
The argument can be made that the UFC has experienced growth unlike anything ever seen by the NFL, therefore, it's already 'bigger'.
Tice, I think we're gonna end up agreeing to disagree on this. I totally understand your side of the argument, but I think it's an outdated view. Bad-mouthing the big corporate sponsors, for example. It's not like it's a stuffy, 80-something white-hair running the company anymore than wants everyone to kiss his ass or he's going to pull his investment - the guys in these positions now understand exposure, how it works and why it works.
What I can't understand is seeing his WWF persona and characteristics as being bad for the sport - the outburst against Mir got them a lot more publicity on mainstream media than a handshake would have, and surely that's a good thing? Also from the world of wrestling; the end result justifies the means by which you get there!
Brock is a monster and he is going to be hard to beat. Frank Mir is very cocky and thought he could beat Godzilla after he beat Nog. However it gave Brock no right to act like a Clown. I hope Shane wins, but it will be tough.
the way i feel that brock is a piece of shit. this is not the wwe fucking ass hole
learn some repect. the fans made them all
thank you
Jesus to listen to you Brock fans you would swear hes 30-0, how you gonna be that big and powerful but yet steady looking to take the fight to the ground? The reason carwin will win is clear his standup is wayyyyyyyyyyy better than brocks and he has the ability to keep the fight standing, and anyone thats seen brock fight knows he not the second coming of vitor belfort .
ok...of course he's not the second coming of vitor...Brock knows how to handle his personal life...you won't see Brock having to step out of the spotlight to deal with his "demons"...your post is stupid...Carwin better bring his A-game cuz if it goes to the ground, Brock won't let him up like Gonzaga did...Brock, tko r/2
Its nice to listen to the hype that is not only being generated on this forum, but which has been generating from hundreds of sites and forums alike. I think that movement alone should speak the magnitude of what this sport has become and what it is becoming.
Each person, with their individual opinions, pro's and con's, are only adding to the already growing popularity of MMA.
With that being said, I believe that anything can happen in MMA. We (whom have watched this sport grow from the years of bare knuckles) can say thanks to everyone, including Brock and Shane that have initiated this kind of debate back and forth.
Individually, no one can say that what Brock has done or what Shane is doing now is provoking anything other than building this sport faster, stronger, and more promising than any other sport on the market today. Afterall, we are all on this forum writing about it... Right?
I cant believe people use the words Lesnar and mma in the same sentence.Mixed martial arts is not laying on top of someone and smashing their face in because the guy is to heavy to move. I would like to see Lesnar throw some kicks or just do anything other than lay his big ass on someone and pound on them. Thats in no way what MMA is about.
Ground and Pound isn't part of mma?
So he wants it to be like the NFL...emulating the likes of Chad "Ochocinco", T.O., Randy Moss (of a couple years ago) and the list goes on of the selfish dickheads that expect the league to revolve around them, go through the motions when they don't have the spotlight on the play, and so forth.
Ground and pound is absolutely part of mma. But no one will every mistake what lesnar is doing for mma. never
you're a hater...brock will be champ for a long time...get over it hater
Wow. You are all opinionated losers. You don't see ridiculous debates like this in the NFL forum. No wonder MMA fans get a bad rap.
Ground and Pound is most definetely part of MMA, Rampage likes to Ground and Pound, wanderlei likes to GnP, what the hell are you getting at saying "Mixed martial arts is not laying on top of someone and smashing their face in because the guy is to heavy to move"?
did you forget how bj was beat by Matt Hughes? or how Roy beat kimbo? you know what that is called when they trap both their arms and smash their heads? its called GnP.
so educate yourself more on what MMA stands for, if you want ppl to beat the crap out of each other and keep it standing go watch boxing or kickboxing.
besides brock is a wrestler, do you know how wrestling is scored in competitions? they pin them down, so what do you think a wrestler will do in a fight? i dont know maybe pin them down?
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overall i agree with the other anon, MMA has grown and it will continue to, and the fact that we are here arguing various points is testiment of that
all in all, BROCK FTW!
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